Speaking up might earn you a name like “mouthy” or “bitch,” but is it really better to stay silent? Lisa and Trudy discuss the difference between a Karen and a crone, when to speak up and the wisdom one gains with age. 

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• (01:01 ) - Coming in hot
  


• (04:29 ) - Mouthy but not entitled
  


• (09:03 ) - Speaking up
  


• (12:53 ) - Fear of the Karen
  


• (18:38 ) - Don’t make a scene
  


• (25:46 ) - Aging out of people-pleasing

Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin 

Produced by Odvod Media

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen

Original music by Darrin Hagen