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Welcome to the Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi podcast, the go-to spot for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand. Dive into the world where branding meets SEO and link-building, and unlock the secrets to becoming more visible, credible, and downright irresistible to your audience.
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Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands & Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder & CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we welcome Thomas Gleeson — StoreHero co-founder and former Shopify Merchant Success lead — who helps e-commerce brands grow profitably by prioritizing contribution margin, LTV, and cashflow over vanity metrics like ROAS.
Key Talking Points
✅ Why ROAS Misleads — Ad costs up, attribution messy, ops + COGS + returns rising; profit ≠ revenue, and ROAS ignores VAT, discounts, shipping, fees
✅ Contribution Margin First — Net revenue (ex-tax) minus COGS minus marketing = the North Star for budget and channel decisions
✅ The “Allowable CAC” Mindset — Winners engineer higher CAC ceilings via pricing, bundles, and offer structure—so they outbid competitors
✅ Offer Structure > Blanket Discounts — Use bundles, threshold free shipping, GWP (free gift with purchase), selective promos to protect margin
✅ Black Friday Playbook — Pull last year’s SKU-level data: target higher-AOV, high-margin items; test tiered offers; don’t copy “site-wide 30%” by default
✅ Reality of Margin Compression — Discounts, free shipping/returns, BNPL, transaction fees can halve gross margin if you’re not tracking the math
✅ Small Catalogs Can Win — Build a simple break-even ROAS calculator per offer; know fees, returns, shipping, taxes, and COGS before scaling spend
✅ Cohorts & Retention — Nov/Dec buyers often gift-led and less loyal; use Shopify cohort charts to set realistic LTV expectations
✅ LLMs as a Channel — Early signals that ChatGPT/Gemini can drive discovery; solid SEO + authority increases likelihood of being cited
Quotes from Thomas Gleeson
📢 “There’s an industry-wide obsession with ROAS. It’s flawed. Your P&L pays the bills, not ROAS.”
📢 “If gross margin drops, your marketing must overperform just to stand still.”
📢 “The game isn’t ‘lowest CAC’—it’s highest allowable CAC. Engineer offers that let you spend more than rivals.”
📢 “In Black Friday planning, increased revenue doesn’t automatically mean increased profit.”
📢 “Be honest about COGS and fees. That ‘80% margin’ often becomes 40–50% once reality is added back.”
Actionable Insights
🧮 Know Your Numbers (Before BFCM)
Build a per-offer break-even ROAS: RRP → discount → COGS → VAT/tax → shipping/returns → payment fees → expected return rate.
Track contribution margin weekly; tie ad budget increases to profit deltas, not revenue.
🧰 Offer Engineering
Prefer bundles, GWP, and free-shipping threshold tweaks over blunt site-wide cuts.
Surface SKUs with above-average AOV and margin; push with creative + merchandising, not just discount.
💸 Budgeting by Margin
Improve gross margin (trim “conversion candy” that erodes it) to unlock 2–3× more ad budget at the same profit target.
Separate goals: one motion for profit, another for top-line—don’t let revenue targets force margin-killing promos.
📈 Cohorts & Segmentation
Expect lower LTV from Nov/Dec new customers; design tailored post-purchase flows and realistic payback windows.
Reward loyal segments; avoid penalizing them while testing new-customer carrots.
🔎 LLM Visibility
Solid SEO foundations, authoritative mentions, and clear USP language increase odds of LLM citations (early but growing opportunity).
About Thomas Gleeson
Thomas Gleeson is the co-founder of StoreHero and former Shopify Merchant Success lead. He helps brands centralize e-com, marketing, and finance data to make profit-first decisions—shifting teams from ROAS worship to unit economics and contribution margin.
📬 Connect with Thomas:
LinkedIn: Thomas Gleeson · storehero.ai
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
🌍 https://marketmoverspod.com
Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands & Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder & CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we welcome Meredith Fogle — top-producing Maryland team leader of The Meredith Fogle Team at The List Realty, host of So You Wanna Be a Real Estate Agent, creator of the Make My Listing Famous system, and author of Farming for Real Estate Agents. Meredith breaks down how she’s built a nearly all-organic business through hyperlocal geo farming, community-first marketing, and smart automation.
Key Talking Points
✅ Hyperlocal GeoFarming — How to select, cultivate, and dominate a geographic farm with real community relationships (not just postcards)
✅ 99% Organic, 0% Paid Leads — Why relationships beat low-intent paid leads and how to create conversations that convert
✅ Make My Listing Famous — A full-funnel listing promo system (print, AI video, email, signage, in-window features, virtual tours) that markets the home and your brand
✅ Viral Listing System — Turn one listing into 1+ new listing and 3 buyers via a launch flywheel and mega open house cadence
✅ Seller Sneak Preview — The neighbors-only, party-style preview (wine/cheese or food truck) that wins future listings on the block
✅ Email that Works — Build & segment lists; write USP-driven, problem-solving emails; tell stories; funnel to website/value offers
✅ Community > Everything — Events, sponsorships (show up in person), hyperlocal blogging, and lead capture at scale (e.g., Oktoberfest raffle)
✅ AI & Ops — Newsletter and seller-update drafting, voice-note → workflow automation, AI sales manager surfacing CRM opportunities + scripts, 30-second CMA tool
Quotes from Meredith Fogle
📢 “Paid leads are low intent. If you spend the same energy building relationships, you’ll get a far better return.”
📢 “A listing is your storefront. Leverage one sign into many conversations—and many transactions.”
📢 “Neighbors aren’t ‘nosy’—they’re future sellers. Invite them first, and wow them.”
📢 “If your marketing tells a clear story, sellers see themselves in it—and call you.”
📢 “AI won’t replace the human connection, but it can supercharge your systems and speed.”
Actionable Insights
🌱 GeoFarm Playbook
Define a tight geographic farm and be visibly present: volunteer, sponsor, host, and show up in person.
Postcards can help—but they’re not the farm. Proximity and presence are.
Publish hyperlocal content (community pages, neighborhood FAQs, market snapshots).
🎉 Viral Listing Launch
Run a three-day mega open house anchored by a Seller Sneak Preview the night before (handwritten invites + call + email; add wine/cheese or a food truck).
Treat the event as a brand showcase: neighbors experience your process and become your next pipeline.
Standardize a launch flywheel: coming-soon → launch weekend → follow-up sequences → concierge seller service → past-client/neighbor nurture.
🎥 Make My Listing Famous (Omni-Channel)
Combine print (brochures, postcards, window displays) with digital (AI videos, email campaigns, virtual tours).
Every asset should market the listing and your brand (consistency in USP, offers, and calls-to-action).
📬 Email List That Converts
Capture at open houses, community events (raffles), and via online home valuation pages.
Segment (downsizers, move-up, past clients, buyers) and speak to problems each cohort faces.
Use storytelling + testimonials; add “read more” links for SEO and value assets for deeper nurture.
🏘️ Community & Events
Plan quarterly anchors (e.g., Oktoberfest booth) with lead capture and memorable giveaways.
Follow up fast: thank-you email + relevant resource → add to cohort nurture sequence.
🤖 AI & Systems (Meredith’s Stack Ideas)
Voice notes → transcription → tasking: auto-fill workflows, draft listing descriptions, caption photos, schedule vendors.
AI Sales Manager: scans CRM daily to surface top opportunities, drafts personalized reach-out scripts/emails, references last notes, suggests next-step resources.
Instant CMA: internal tool produces a 30-second comp packet to speed seller touchpoints.
🔎 AI Discoverability
Ensure you’re present where LLMs pull context: authoritative listicles, local citations, social profiles, and rich on-site content.
Offer clear USP language on-page so models can summarize you accurately.
About Meredith Fogle
Meredith Fogle leads The Meredith Fogle Team at The List Realty (serving DC, Maryland & Virginia). She’s the author of Farming for Real Estate Agents, host of So You Wanna Be a Real Estate Agent, and a Tom Ferry real estate business coach. Meredith is known for hyperlocal geo farming, her Make My Listing Famous marketing engine, and a viral listing process that turns one listing into many.
📬 Connect with Meredith:
• Book: Farming for Real Estate Agents
• Podcast: So You Wanna Be a Real Estate Agent
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mfoglekentlands/
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
🌍 https://marketmoverspod.com
Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands & Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder & CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we welcome Peter Roter — a no-BS technical SEO & enterprise strategist who’s scaled results at HUB International, BuySellAds, YouTube, and Analog Devices by blending sharp execution with APIs, automations, and custom GPTs. We dig into how AI crawlers actually work, what to let them see, and how to turn LLMs into a viable discovery channel.
Key Talking Points
✅ What AI Bots Want — ChatGPT/Perplexity bots summarize and build understanding (vs. classic navigators); they’re often crawling more than Googlebot
✅ Let Them In—With Guardrails — You want LLM bots for future traffic, but constrain crawl paths (robots.txt, routing) and monitor logs to avoid overload
✅ JS & Rendering Choices — LLMs struggle with client-side JS; favor SSR/Prerender (or static HTML/Markdown) so your primary content is in the source
✅ Overlap with SEO — LLM visibility skews to brand mentions, co-citation, consensus; think Reddit, social profiles, and authoritative listicles
✅ Schema: Nice-to-Have — Helpful for rich results; mixed evidence for LLMs. Don’t expect markup alone to move needles
✅ Cloudflare Controls — Sites can block AIO usage or explore monetization paths; expect uneven compliance across bots
✅ Measuring Reality — No clean LLM “rankings”; track direct traffic, sales calls, and “How did you hear about us?” to attribute lift
✅ Enterprise Truth — Best practice ≠ shipped; success = buy-in, explainers, repeatable workflows (not hacks)
Quotes from Peter Roter
📢 “You definitely want LLM bots on your site—the traffic source will grow. Just make sure they crawl the right paths.”
📢 “Most wins come from mentions and consensus—where people see you cited next to category leaders.”
📢 “If your strategy relies on algorithm quirks, you’re on a ticking time bomb. Build brand and do real marketing.”
📢 “LLM visibility is messy to track. Treat it like podcasting—invest, then watch direct traffic and pipeline.”
Actionable Insights
🧭 Crawl & Render Hygiene
Ensure primary content is HTML-visible (SSR/prerender if you use React/SPA).
Use robots.txt to keep bots out of non-content areas (cart, filters, faceted junk) but allow key content paths.
Watch server logs for AI bot volume; throttle only if infra strains.
🧠 LLM Discovery Playbook
Seed consensus: secure inclusion in trusted listicles, refresh social profiles, and add useful Reddit contributions.
On-page, state your USP plainly (headlines, first paragraph). LLMs reward clarity they can summarize.
For recency-sensitive topics, publish hyper-specific, dated explainer pages and update visibly.
🔗 Brand Signals > Tricks
Pursue co-citation: get referenced alongside category leaders (panels, roundups, partner content).
Keep ORM tight: monitor and shape how you’re described across the web; fold customer language (reviews, call notes, Reddit) into copy.
🧾 Schema & Structure
Maintain core schema (Org, Product/Service, Article) for SERP enhancements and machine clarity; don’t rely on it alone for LLM wins.
Provide sitemaps and clean IA; LLMs still benefit from traditional structure.
📊 Measurement That Matters
Expect answer variance across sessions—don’t “rank-track” LLMs like Google.
Instrument sales to log research tools used (ChatGPT/Perplexity/Google).
Report blended impact via direct traffic trend, qualified demo/call volume, and attributed revenue.
About Peter Roter
Peter Roter is a technical SEO and enterprise strategist who’s driven outcomes at HUB International, BuySellAds, YouTube, and Analog Devices. He builds modern search workflows with APIs, automations, and custom GPTs, focusing on sustainable visibility across Google and LLMs.
📬 Connect with Peter: LinkedIn — Peter Roter · https://www.peterrotaseo.com/
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
🌍 https://marketmoverspod.com
Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands & Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder & CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we welcome Karl Kangur — entrepreneur, affiliate operator, Director of Marketing at Smash Digital, and co-organizer of SEO Estonia and Chiang Mai SEO. Karl’s been in the trenches for 16 years (started at 12), built and exited authority sites, and now blends AI-era SEO, editorial link building, and conference-driven deal flow.
Key Talking Points
✅ Conferences > Talks — The content is valuable, but the real ROI is networking; shorter 20-min talks, more structured connection time
✅ AI-Era SEO — Understand how LLMs work (training data vs. live search), then optimize for both: training corpora and Bing/Google sources
✅ Poisoning (Legally) the Well — Get in Common Crawl, saturate the web with consistent answers/brand associations, and seed consensus
✅ AIO vs. LLMs — Google AI Overviews pull from Google; ChatGPT leans on training data + Bing; Perplexity often mirrors Google more
✅ Links Still Rule — On-page and content are finite games; links are the scalable tiebreaker—focus on powerful editorial links
✅ Power > Pixel-Perfect Relevance — DR 70+ editorial placements beat DR 30 niche posts; create contextual relevance with credible examples
✅ Outbound Penalties Are the Quiet Killer — “Sell-a-link” sites lose trust (links stop counting), so profiles crumble on spam updates
✅ Track Reality, Not Vanity — LLM visibility is messy; watch direct traffic, sales calls, and “How did you hear about us?” notes
Quotes from Karl Kangur
📢 “We’re not married to tactics—we’re hackers of algorithms. AI just gave us a new playground.”
📢 “If Google’s fought spam for 30 years and still misses, imagine how early LLMs are.”
📢 “A DR 70 editorial link can beat ten ‘relevant’ DR 30s. Power is the tiebreaker.”
📢 “Conferences changed my life—one conversation can be a six-figure swing.”
📢 “AI is a language model—feed it the language you want it to repeat.”
Actionable Insights
🤖 LLM Visibility (What to Do Now)
Train the model: Ensure your brand/pages are crawled by Common Crawl; publish consistent, repeated statements you want LLMs to parrot.
Own the sources: Place listicles/citations on high-authority sites that Bing/Google commonly surface—stack multiple aligned sources.
Write AI-readable answers: Restate the query and answer directly in the first sentence; layer E-E-A-T proof immediately after.
🔗 Links That Still Move Needles
Prioritize editorial links on DR 70–90 publications; create relevance via use-cases, examples, and data (not just exact-match niches).
Expect “buy-a-link” domains to degrade over time via unnatural outbound link penalties—don’t anchor your profile to them.
Fill the real bottleneck: often it’s authority, not micro-relevance or anchors.
📈 Measure What Matters
LLM rankings vary by session & persona; use manual spot checks for directional insight, but report on direct traffic, booked calls, and revenue.
Bake in sales-op questions (“Which tool did you use to research us? ChatGPT? Perplexity? Google?”) and log this consistently.
🎤 Conference Strategy (How to Win the Room)
Treat talks as icebreakers; the deal flow is in the bars & hallways.
You’re not the only introvert—open with simple prompts (“What are you building? What’s working?”).
Pro tip for Chiang Mai: mornings have meetups; evenings have secrets—pace yourself (yes, there are ginger shots, IV drips, espresso martinis).
Karl’s Playbook Highlights
AI Optimization: Seed training data (Common Crawl), then target the sources LLMs cite (Bing/Google top pages) with aligned listicles and citations.
Editorial Link Building: Place clients as examples in CRO/marketing pieces on big pubs (e.g., “best testimonial layout” → brand mention + link + context).
All-Channel Wins: One placement can be LLM-cited, rank on Google, pass authority, and drive referral traffic—optimize for overlap.
About Karl Kangur
Karl Kangur is an entrepreneur, affiliate operator, and Director of Marketing at Smash Digital. He co-runs SEO Estonia and Chiang Mai SEO, and focuses on AI-era search strategy, editorial link acquisition, and conference ecosystems that compound relationships into revenue.
🎟 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kangurkarl/
🎟 SEO Estonia: http://seostoney.com
🎟 Chiang Mai SEO: https://chiangmaiseoconference.com/
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
🌍 https://marketmoverspod.com
Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands & Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder & CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we welcome Nick Loper — founder of Side Hustle Nation and host of The Side Hustle Show (~700 episodes). Nick shares a decade+ of patterns from thousands of stories: what still works, what AI can’t replace, and how to go from first $1k to meaningful freedom.
Key Talking Points
✅ From Amazon-Everything to Real-World Moats — The shift from Kindle/FBA/Merch/Influencer to local services, value-add directories, and UGC that brands pay for
✅ Recurring > One-Off — The $180/mo website model (templates + a 2-year term) and other subscription playbooks that print margin
✅ Simple Services, Superior Ops — Cleaning, window/pressure washing, consignment: answer fast, quote clearly, re-book—and you’ll win
✅ Directories That Outlive AI — “Near me” sites that layer useful filters/data over Maps; local, niche, and defensible
✅ UGC as a Retainer Business — Short, hooky brand videos (followers optional); shift to $3–5k/mo retainers for predictable content
✅ AI as a Power Tool — Use it for editing passes, B-roll pulls, SOPs, code scaffolding—keep humans for claims, compliance, and taste
✅ Experimenter Mindset — Take step 1, ship, get feedback; tomorrow looks like today unless you act
Quotes from Nick Loper
📢 “I built the show I wanted to hear—skip the theory, show me the steps.”
📢 “If I don’t do anything, tomorrow looks like today—that didn’t sit well with me.”
📢 “Local services win by being the better administrator—pick up the phone, follow up, re-book.”
📢 “Directories still work—if you add utility beyond a list.”
📢 “AI is a power tool, not autopilot—use it to accelerate, keep humans in the loop.”
Actionable Insights
🚀 Recurring Revenue Playbooks
Flip project work to monthly packages (web builds, maintenance, reporting). Breakeven in 1–2 months, margin thereafter.
Add 2-year terms + reduced “maintenance-only” pricing after the term to lock in LTV.
🏠 Local Service Edge
Win on speed & certainty: answer within minutes, give transparent pricing windows, and ask, “Want me to book the next visit now?”
Build “neighbor virality”: before/afters, yard signs, leave-behind offers, and a referral bonus for houses on the same street.
🗺️ Directories That Rank & Convert
Start one city × one niche; add 3–5 filters the user actually needs (availability, price bands, specialties).
Enrich with phone/email CTAs, FAQs, mini guides, and a short comparison grid.
🎬 UGC That Brands Buy
Create 5–10 spec videos for products you already use; pitch 10 brands with a retainer (2–4 videos/month) vs. one-offs.
They don’t need your following—they need on-brand creative for their ads/social.
🤖 AI in Your Workflow (Guardrails On)
Podcast/video: first-pass trims, summaries, B-roll suggestions; human final cut.
Content: outlines, angle ideation, drafts; human fact checks and tone.
Ops: draft SOPs, client emails, proposal shells; lock down sensitive data.
🧠 Mindset & Momentum
Adopt test-and-tune: ship a tiny offer, gather signal, iterate.
Track leading indicators (response time, quotes sent, trials booked) as much as revenue.
Side Hustle Examples Nick Highlighted
$100k/mo Web Studio via low-friction monthly website packages (niche + templates + fast edits)
Unconventional Rentals: portable hot tubs/saunas with simple logistics and visible, seasonal demand
Teaching → Agency: video-game classes scaled into a multi-instructor business
Mobile Notary / Loan Signing: low barrier, rides financing/refi waves
Amazon Influencer: 25–50 evergreen product videos → ongoing micro-payouts
Nick’s Short List (If He Had a Free Weekend)
Near-Me Directories (AI-resistant, scalable once templated)
Pressure Washing (cheap gear, fast ROI, “neighbor virality”)
About Nick Loper
Nick Loper is the founder of Side Hustle Nation and host of The Side Hustle Show. For 12+ years he’s curated the most practical side-hustle playbooks on earth—favoring repeatable systems, recurring revenue, and AI-resilient businesses—helping millions earn their first $1k and beyond.
📬 Connect with Nick: Side Hustle Nation FB Group → sidehustlenation.com/fb
🎧 Podcast & Web: https://www.sidehustlenation.com/
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
🌍 https://marketmoverspod.com
Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands & Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder & CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we welcome Kasra Dash — SEO operator, conference founder, and the mind behind Masterminders. Known for rank & rent, parasite SEO, and big link plays, Kasra spends most of his time testing—and breaking—algorithms, busting industry myths, and pushing what’s possible in search.
Key Talking Points
✅ Myth-Busting SEO — Why Kasra chases edge cases, pressure-tests “best practices,” and refuses to play it safe
✅ Brand > Blog — Sites winning today are active on-site and across social (shorts, infographics, podcasts), often via creators/influencers
✅ Influencer Collabs That Convert — From Similarweb-style creator ads to hiring niche faces (a la Sky Bet) to front your content machine
✅ App for SEOs — Cutting spam, connecting legit buyers/sellers, listing conferences & live workshops to grow the community
✅ Email Reality Check — Don’t buy “big lists”—opt for engaged lists; test with multi-email sequences and low-friction offers ($1 mini-courses)
✅ Conference Playbook — Start as a side/mastermind alongside a big show (the “parasite conference” move), then scale into your own brand
✅ AI With Guardrails — Faster content, multi-agent fact-checking, AI avatars—but keep humans-in-the-loop and treat security as non-negotiable
✅ Growth First — Why he’ll run events at a loss early to build asset value, momentum, and deal flow
Quotes from Kasra Dash
📢 “I get excited when I break things. If there’s a myth on stage, I want to test it.”
📢 “The brands winning aren’t just blogging—they’re everywhere: shorts, pods, infographics, creator clips.”
📢 “Don’t chase list size. Chase activity. I prune non-openers so the list stays alive.”
📢 “AI makes everything faster—without guardrails it’s dangerous. Keep humans in the loop.”
📢 “My favorite conference hack? Parasite the big show with a focused mastermind—then scale.”
Actionable Insights
🚀 Brand & Distribution
Pair on-site authority with off-site presence: shorts, carousels, live streams, and a recurring show.
If you don’t want to host, hire creators to front your YouTube/TikTok/shorts; you own the strategy, they own the on-camera presence.
🤝 Influencer Partnerships That Work
Audit engagement, not vanity: open/click rates, comment quality, recency of list growth, previous promo results.
Launch with a value-first offer (e.g., $1 mini-course/webinar) and a multi-email sequence—then present the core offer.
📬 Email Hygiene
Ditch giveaways/free-gadget lead magnets; they create low-intent lists.
Sunset inactive subs (e.g., after 4 unopened sends) to keep deliverability and CTR high.
🎤 Conference Strategy
Run a side/mastermind next to a major event to piggyback travel & attention; graduate to your own venue/yearly cadence.
Monetize via tiers (mastermind → workshop → main day) and build a deal-making bar culture.
🤖 AI in SEO (with Guardrails)
Use multi-agent checks (Agent B/C verify Agent A), custom GPTs per channel (YouTube scripts, LinkedIn posts, email, captions).
Experiment with AI avatars for scale, but human-review everything strategic or sensitive.
Treat security seriously—avoid vibe-coded apps without audits; keep sensitive models private/internal when needed.
🧪 Site & CRO
Rapidly prototype pages, tests, and flows with Claude/ChatGPT—then human QA and ship.
Let AI draft; let humans decide what stands.
About Kasra Dash
Kasra Dash is an SEO operator and conference founder focused on experimentation, rank & rent, parasite SEO, and large-scale link strategy. He runs Masterminders, hosts workshops, and is building an SEO app to connect reputable operators, cut spam, and amplify community learning.
📬 Connect with Kasra: kasradash.com · LinkedIn
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
🌍 https://marketmoverspod.com
Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we welcome Dr. Junaid Hussain—UK GP and digital health strategist. Through Health Collider, PractiKey, and his own consultancy, Jay helps health-tech teams navigate clinical safety, governance, pilots, and NHS market entry. He also runs a 800+ doctor innovation community that bridges frontline needs with real-world solutions.
Key Talking Points
✅ The NHS Reality Check — Why the system feels like many NHSs, not one, with local policies, data silos, and uneven access
✅ Why Doctors Are Diversifying — Training bottlenecks, scarce GP roles, and growing interest in private clinics, content, and tech
✅ Routes to Market for Health Tech — Pilots, evidence, clinical safety cases, and picking the right practices (not just any pilot)
✅ Personal Brand = Clinical Trust — Patients (and buyers) vet clinicians via bios, credentials, video, testimonials—brand drives bookings
✅ Platform Choices That Match Goals — LinkedIn for B2B health-tech deals; Google Business Profile + local SEO for clinics; TikTok/YouTube for public education and demand gen
✅ Operations First, Not Hype — Where agentic AI is safe/useful today: reception, triage routing, follow-ups, voicemail/email, reminders
✅ Clinical AI With Caution — Augmentation over replacement; regulation, indemnity, and hallucinations remain gating factors
✅ Five-Year Outlook — More efficient admin; access still strained; disruption lags without bolder risk appetite; private care keeps rising
Quotes from Dr. Junaid Hussain
📢 “AI will augment doctors, not replace them. Clinical judgment and responsibility don’t go away.”
📢 “For clinics, Google and your bio still win—people want to know who will treat them.”
📢 “It’s not one NHS—it’s hundreds of organizations with different rules and systems.”
📢 “Meet patients where they are. If your audience lives on TikTok, educate there—credibly.”
Actionable Insights
🧭 For Health-Tech Founders
Prove safety early. Build your clinical safety case, governance docs, and data-protection story before pilots.
Pilot with fit. Choose practices that want your category; define success metrics and exit criteria upfront.
Show up on LinkedIn. Decision-makers watch quietly—share clinical evidence, pathway wins, and implementation lessons.
Map procurement paths. Understand ICS/Trust dynamics, who signs, and how outcomes are measured.
🏥 For Private Clinics
Own your local intent. Nail Google Business Profile, location pages, reviews, FAQs, and appointment UX.
Lead with the clinician. Rich bios, credentials, video intros, and patient testimonials reduce friction and no-shows.
Automate the admin. Use AI for booking, confirmations, follow-ups, recall lists, voicemail triage—measure no-show and cycle-time drops.
Pick the right socials. LinkedIn for referrals/partnerships; TikTok/YouTube for public education; repurpose long-form to shorts.
🧪 For Clinicians Exploring AI
Upskill safely. Take accredited primers on AI in medicine; know what is (and isn’t) regulated.
Document controls. Keep human-in-the-loop, audit logs, and escalation paths; test on back-office tasks first.
Balance risk. Start where AI reduces errors (e.g., missed follow-ups) rather than clinical decision edges.
About Dr. Junaid Hussain
Dr. Junaid Hussain is a UK GP and digital health strategist. After roles in the UK and Middle East (building primary-care services), he now advises health-tech companies on NHS entry, clinical safety, and governance. He co-founded Health Collider, supports innovation via PractiKey, and runs a 800+ doctor community focused on healthcare technology.
📬 Connect with Junaid: LinkedIn · drjunaidhussain.com · healthcollider.com
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Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
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In this episode we welcome Vlad Podoliako, Founder & CEO of Belkins and Folderly. Over the last decade he’s grown Belkins into a 300-person B2B acquisition agency serving mid-market and enterprise brands across the U.S., reinvesting profits to launch ~15 companies across SalesTech and MarTech. Vlad advises and invests widely in GTM, email deliverability, and revenue operations.
Key Talking Points
✅ Belkins Playbook — Orchestrating email, cold calls, ads, content, LinkedIn/X and more to drive B2B pipeline at scale
✅ AI ≠ Job Killer — How AI became a force multiplier (call analysis, follow-ups, scoring, ops automation) vs. a replacement
✅ Personalization is Baseline — Why single-channel personalization is table stakes and omnichannel (email + LinkedIn + phone + ads + events) wins
✅ The New Role: GTM Engineer — Part PM, part SDR/BDR, part marketing ops, and part AI wrangler who stitches channels and models together
✅ Deliverability Matters — Tightening mailbox rules created the email deliverability engineer and made marketing more technical than ever
✅ Voice Agents Reality Check — Great for B2C receptions/admin, not for enterprise sales (legality, trust, uncanny valley)
✅ AGI Timeline & Compute Limits — Why the hype is early; practical advances likely over 5–10 years, not months
✅ Model Mix Over Model Monogamy — Use Claude for coding/prototyping, Gemini for decks/knowledge work, ChatGPT for general tasks; don’t rely on one
✅ Search Habit Shift — Buyers increasingly ask LLMs over clicking “10 blue links”; ads will follow attention into AI surfaces
Quotes from Vlad Podoliako
📢 “AI didn’t replace our teams—it made them more effective and cost-efficient.”
📢 “Personalization is default now. The edge is omnichannel orchestration, not a clever one-off email.”
📢 “Enterprise sales won’t be closed by bots anytime soon. People buy from people.”
📢 “The future GTM hire is a Go-To-Market Engineer—someone who can connect channels, data, and AI models into one motion.”
Actionable Insights for Revenue Teams
🧩 Hire for Orchestration
– Add a GTM Engineer who understands SDR workflows, marketing ops, deliverability, data, and AI tools (Claude/Gemini/ChatGPT) to bind channels into one playbook.
🎯 Personalize Omnichannel
– Pair account-level insights with AI-assisted drafts, then human-edit for tone. Mirror the same narrative across email, LinkedIn, phone, ads, and field.
📬 Fortify Deliverability
– Invest in domain/mailer hygiene, warmup, authentication, and reputation management. Treat deliverability engineering as core GTM infrastructure.
🤖 Automate the Right Jobs
– Use AI for call analysis, scoring, follow-ups, voicemail triage, receptionist flows. Keep human sellers for discovery, objection handling, and complex deals.
🧠 Go Multi-Model
– Standardize when to use Claude vs. Gemini vs. ChatGPT. Document prompts, approvals, and handoffs so AI augments, not derails, your motion.
📈 Measure Across the Journey
– Track influence across channels (opens, replies, call connects, meeting show rate, stage conversion, pipeline $$). Optimize sequence + channel mix, not just emails.
About Vlad Podoliako
Vlad Podoliako is Founder & CEO of Belkins (B2B acquisition agency) and Folderly. Over 10 years he’s grown Belkins to 300 employees worldwide, serving the U.S. mid-market and enterprise with full-funnel outbound and multi-channel demand. He has incubated ~15 companies across SalesTech and MarTech, and actively advises and invests in the space.
📬 Connect with Vlad: LinkedIn · https://www.vladsnewsletter.com/
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Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi! Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we welcome Virginia Chachati — UK-registered pharmacist, medical copywriter, and creator of Accessible Health Content. After moving to Germany in 2020, Virginia pivoted from community pharmacy to medical writing and video, working with the NHS, World Health Organization, and YouTube Health. She now teaches healthcare professionals and scientists how to craft credible, easy-to-understand health content that performs across search and social.
Key Talking Points
✅ From Pharmacy to Publishing — How a relocation sparked a career in medical writing & video (and a crash course in SEO)
✅ E-E-A-T in Healthcare — Credentials, reviewer bios, review dates/expiry, and expert quotes aren’t optional anymore
✅ Niche > Generic — Why ultra-specific topics (e.g., magnesium sulfate paste) beat “me-too” medical explainers
✅ Site Architecture that Surfaces in LLMs — Clear headings (H1/H2/H3), bullets, citations, quote boxes, and structured content
✅ SME Allocation — Don’t use “one doctor for everything”; assign topic-specialist clinicians for true authority
✅ Channel Strategy — LinkedIn & YouTube are underutilized for health; TikTok is great for idea testing but has a short shelf life
✅ Audience-Led Content — Use surveys/social listening to collect real questions; write for comprehension, not just compliance
✅ AI in Health Content — Safe uses: ideation, gap finding, style training; always human fact-check and update
Quotes from Virginia Chachati
📢 “I hadn’t heard of SEO — then realized that’s how the internet works.”
📢 “If your topic’s been answered 100 times, don’t do it again unless you can do it significantly better or with real experts.”
📢 “Healthcare content needs review dates, credentials, and verifiable experts — that’s trust.”
📢 “LinkedIn and YouTube build enduring visibility; Instagram and TikTok are more pay-to-win and short-lived.”
Actionable Insights for Health Brands
🧠 Lead with Expertise
– Put author credentials, reviewer bios, and register links on every page. Create a clinician hub page showing all articles reviewed by each SME.
🧩 Go Narrow, Win Big
– Target long-tail, high-intent questions your specialists can truly own. Publish deep, skimmable answers with citations and clear “when to see a doctor” guidance.
🏗️ Structure for Humans & LLMs
– Use clean hierarchy (H1/H2/H3), bullets, Q&A sections, call-outs, and reference lists. Add review/expiry dates and update on a defined cadence.
🎥 Prioritize Durable Channels
– YouTube: Fewer videos, higher quality. Chaptered, question-dense formats work.
– LinkedIn: Consistent posts → outsized qualified leads in B2B health.
– TikTok: Use for message testing and reach; keep it simple and conversational.
🗣️ Collect Real Questions
– Survey your list and communities; build a backlog of patient-language queries. Quote real questions in your copy to increase relevance and retention.
🤖 Use AI Safely
– Ideation, outline, style-tuning: yes. Medical facts, recommendations, and clinical nuance: human-authored and fact-checked only.
About Virginia Chachati
Virginia Chachati is a UK-registered pharmacist (GPhC) turned medical writer and video educator. She’s partnered with the NHS (appearing on the high-traffic hay fever page), WHO, and YouTube Health, and helped The London Clinic earn a UX award following a web overhaul. Through her community and courses, Virginia helps healthcare professionals and scientists create clear, compliant, and credible health content — with special focus on first aid and travel health/vaccines.
📬 Connect with Virginia.
Virginia Chachati's Website: https://virginiachachati.com/
Virginia Chachati's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/virginiachachati/
Virginia Chachati's Link tree: https://linktr.ee/virginiachachati
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Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we welcome Sam Dunning, founder of Breaking B2B and host of the Breaking B2B podcast. Sam helps B2B SaaS teams turn websites into sales reps with bottom-funnel SEO and conversion-led design—focusing on “money keywords,” sales-ready content, and brand visibility where buyers actually research today (Google and LLMs).
Key Talking Points
✅ Back to Customer Research — Define ICP, industries, jobs-to-be-done, struggling moments, and incumbent vendors before touching keywords
✅ Bottom-Funnel First — Build sales pages and listicles that address pain, evaluation criteria, and objections (not just traffic for traffic’s sake)
✅ LLM-Ready Content — Control the narrative: own best-in-class pages, docs, and data; then earn off-site mentions (listicles, podcasts, niche media)
✅ AI Overviews Reality — Expect impressions up, CTR down; optimize for mindshare and branded search while protecting bottom-funnel demand
✅ Platforms That LLMs Cite — Prioritize your site, high-authority listicles, podcasts/transcripts, and (if you’ve got chops) Reddit
✅ Structure Still Matters — Basics still win: clean IA, keyword-aligned H1/URL, schema, scannable sections, strong proof elements
✅ Vibe-Coding vs. SaaS — DIY tools may replace internal workflows, but risk-averse buyers and compliance keep enterprise/mid-market with trusted vendors
Quotes from Sam Dunning
📢 “We build web pages that behave like sales reps—they know the problem, the stakes, and the proof.”
📢 “LLMs make mindshare the metric: be everywhere your buyers research so your brand gets named when budgets open.”
📢 “Control the narrative on your site, then earn the mentions—listicles, podcasts, niche press—so LLMs can’t ignore you.”
📢 “Vibe-coding an app isn’t a go-to-market. Trust and risk still rule in B2B.”
Actionable Insights for B2B Marketers
🚀 Start with ICP & JTBD — Map industries, pains, vendor comparisons, and evaluation criteria; let that drive your content plan
🔎 Own the Money Pages — Build category + comparison + alternatives pages that answer exec-level questions and objections
🧱 Documentation & Data — Publish in-depth docs and original data; LLMs love clear artifacts they can cite
🗂️ Win the Listicles — Identify cited assets in your space; earn placements via value exchange, PR, and partnerships
🎙️ Podcast for Multipliers — Appear on niche shows to gain brand mentions, backlinks, transcripts, and demand—all in one move
📈 Measure Mindshare — Track share of voice, branded search, and direct/demo requests alongside non-brand trends
⚖️ Optimize for AIO — Monitor AI overview impact by intent; double down where click-through still happens (mid/bottom-funnel)
🧰 Be Pragmatic with AI — Use LLMs for briefs, QA, prompts, and sanity checks—but let customer insight set the strategy
About Sam Dunning
Sam Dunning is the founder of Breaking B2B, where he helps B2B SaaS teams drive pipeline with bottom-funnel SEO and conversion-led design. He hosts the Breaking B2B podcast, interviewing tech marketing leaders and sharing real-world experiments and playbooks.
📬 Connect with Sam on LinkedIn or book a call at BreakingB2B.com
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In this episode we welcome Adrian Pedraza, founder of California Homebuyer—a direct-to-seller real estate company specializing in distressed and probate properties across Southern California. Adrian runs a wholesale-first acquisitions shop (with the occasional flip when the numbers sing), leveraging public records, agent relationships, and SEO to source motivated sellers—while keeping the process empathetic, fast, and professional.
Key Talking Points
✅ Wholesale Over Hammers — Why Adrian focuses on contract assignments (wholesale) and only flips when the spread justifies the risk
✅ From Pocket Listings to Direct-to-Seller — Early wins via agent “pocket” listings, then a shift to off-market outreach (cold calls, mail) for deeper discounts
✅ Probate as a Power Niche — Tapping public probate filings for high-intent leads, with a 6–8 month average sales cycle and sensitive seller comms
✅ SEO That Still Converts — A lean site driving ~20% of deal flow with faster closing timelines vs. outbound (the other ~80%)
✅ Trust > Tactics — Be the pro: explain cash vs. list trade-offs; advise listing when it’s best for the seller to build long-term credibility
✅ Direct Mail 2.0 — Using QR codes to drive to the site, reinforce brand trust, and lift local SEO signals
✅ Data & AI — Experimenting with predictive seller data and even running early offer checks in ChatGPT—while keeping local street-level comps as the edge
✅ Market Pulse — Bigger operators, billboards, and buses: why the space is getting more professional and competitive
Quotes from Adrian Pedraza
📢 “I’m an acquisitions guy—mostly wholesale. If the numbers are right, we’ll flip, but I don’t swing hammers.”
📢 “Probate leads are motivated, but the conversion cycle is long. That’s where patience filters out the competition.”
📢 “When a cash offer doesn’t make sense, I’ll say it—go list with an agent. Trust beats a short-term win.”
📢 “SEO leads move faster. They’ve already picked you—they just want the offer and a clean process.”
Actionable Insights for Investors & Acquisitions Teams
🚀 Pick a Motive-Rich Niche — Probate delivers intent. Learn the filings, timelines, and required empathy.
🔍 Blend Inbound + Outbound — Pair local SEO (site + GMB) with probate calling and direct mail for dependable pipeline.
📱 Modernize Mailers — Add QR codes → landing pages → instant form fill → call-back within minutes.
🧭 Be a Guide, Not a Hawk — Always present the cash vs. list decision framework. Long-term reputation = more referrals.
🤖 Use AI as a Second Opinion — Sanity-check valuations in ChatGPT, but let local comps + street knowledge lead.
📈 Track Channel Velocity — SEO leads often close faster; outbound wins volume. Staff and forecast accordingly.
🧱 Build Moats with Professionalism — Branding, reviews, and a clear process separate you from “bandit sign” operators.
About Adrian Pedraza
Adrian Pedraza is a licensed real estate broker and the founder of California Homebuyer, a direct-to-seller acquisitions company buying distressed and probate properties across the Los Angeles metro and Southern California. With eight years in acquisitions (and a family lineage in real estate), Adrian specializes in fast, fair cash offers, clean assignments, and seller-first communication.
📬 Connect with Adrian / get an offer: thecaliforniahomebuyer.com
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Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we welcome Jamie IF — ex-affiliate SEO turned SaaS founder/operator behind Answer Socrates, Endorsely, and AffiliateFinder.ai. After a $1.5M LOI fell apart during Google’s Helpful Content Update, Jamie rebuilt from the ground up, betting on AI-amplified engineering, data/network moats, and the convergence of affiliate, influencer, and referral channels.
Key Talking Points
✅ From HCU Wipeout to Real Marketing — Why losing “faceless” organic forced full-funnel chops (funnels, sales ops, multi-channel)
✅ Spend More on Engineering — How AI makes small teams ship harder problems faster (not a reason to cut dev)
✅ The Only Moats Left — Owned data and network effects beat code that anyone can clone
✅ Affiliate → Influencer → Referral — Hybrid CPM/CPA, EPC guarantees, TikTok Shop, and customer advocacy at scale
✅ Winning in LLM Results — Be omnipresent across clusters, use parasite placements, and build brand entities (schema, Wikidata)
✅ Close the Loop — Pipe CRM stages back to ad platforms so their AI optimizes for your actual revenue
✅ Design “Super-Pixels” — Why sweat-the-details UX separates products from weekend vibe-code clones
✅ Bootstrapped vs. Funded — Cash for offense, lean KPIs (one owner : one metric), and enterprise GTM reality
✅ What’s Next — Gains: an AI-assisted budgeting + cashback app (open banking, chat with your finances)
Quotes from Jamie IF
📢 “AI isn’t a reason to spend less on engineering — it’s a reason to spend more and win.”
📢 “The only durable SaaS moats left are data and network effects.”
📢 “Affiliate and influencer are converging. Today it’s guarantees + rev share, not pure CPA.”
📢 “To show in LLM answers, be everywhere across the topic — ranking #5 on many beats #1 on one.”
Actionable Insights for Listeners
🚀 Engineer First, AI-Powered — Use AI to 100× your devs, not replace them. Ship the hard stuff faster.
🔄 Measure What Matters — Assign one KPI per owner; pull the life-changing levers and let small fires burn.
🔍 Own the Cluster — Cover related intents, secure third-party list spots, and run parasite plays to lift LLM visibility.
🧱 Build Brand Entities — Reviews on G2/Capterra, Product Hunt, org/software schema, and Wikidata via press.
🤝 Hybrid Partnerships — Offer EPC guarantees or sponsor+CPA hybrids; activate customers as micro-creators.
🔁 CRM → Ads Feedback — Send MQL→SQL→Won back to Google/Meta so their AI hunts your best look-alikes.
🎨 Ship Super-Pixels — Micro-UX polish signals quality in an AI/clone era and boosts conversion.
About Jamie IF
Jamie IF is a SaaS founder and partnerships operator. After a post-HCU pivot from affiliate SEO, he now builds tools that help brands grow with search, creators, and performance partnerships.
AnswerSocrates.com — Keyword research & clustering
AffiliateFinder.ai — Find & recruit high-fit affiliates/creators (first 15 free)
Endorsely.com — Free affiliate tracking (connect Stripe)
Gains (coming soon) — AI budgeting + cashback app via open banking
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Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
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In this episode we welcome Fabrizio Ballarini, Head of Organic Growth at WISE (formerly TransferWise). Hired as SEO employee #1 back in 2015, Fabrizio has helped the fintech rocket from ≈20 K non-brand visits a month to multiple millions, handling everything from CMS builds to a high-stakes 2021 TransferWise → wise.com migration—without losing traffic.
Key Talking Points
✅ Building SEO from a Blank Slate – Why Fabrizio’s first 100 days focused on CMS architecture & in-house engineering firepower
✅ 12-Month Domain Switch Playbook – The phased, no-content-changes approach that kept billions in cross-border payments flowing
✅ Product-Led Page Generation – How WISE scales millions of long-tail pages with tech, not content farms
✅ Word-of-Mouth vs. Search – Balancing a referral-heavy growth engine with non-brand SEO expansion
✅ Surviving AI Overviews – Where WISE sees impact, why it’s monitoring rather than panicking, and how LLM-driven agents fit into future workflows
✅ International Rollouts – Launching localised sites & country calculators as WISE entered new markets
✅ Seasonality & Macro Shocks – How currency volatility and politics influence search demand in fintech
Quotes from Fabrizio Ballarini
📢 “In 2015 we had brand traffic and a couple of help-centre articles—now SEO drives millions of sessions every month.”
📢 “For the domain migration we changed nothing except the URL. Same content, same architecture—that’s why it worked.”
📢 “AI overviews haven’t cratered us. Some sections dip, others spike. It’s too early to chase every fluctuation.”
📢 “If tomorrow Google search vanished, we’d still serve our 10 M+ active users—SEO is a bonus, not a single-point failure.”
Actionable Insights for Listeners
🚀 Build with Engineers – A dedicated dev squad early on can outscale any content budget
🔄 Phase Big Rebrands – Test on a sandbox domain, then redirect in stages to isolate risk
🔍 Target the Long Tail – In opaque industries (like FX fees) create calculators & FAQ hubs to surface hidden pain points
🤖 Experiment with LLM Agents – Automate briefs, mapping & internal QA, but don’t rewrite strategy on day one
📉 Monitor, Don’t Panic – Track AI-overview impact by section; double-down where intent still clicks through
🌍 Localise Intelligently – Pair in-market translators with scalable templates for cost-efficient global coverage
About Fabrizio Ballarini
Fabrizio Ballerini is the Head of Organic Growth at WISE, where he leads product SEO, editorial content and technical growth engineering. Since joining in 2015 he’s overseen WISE’s expansion into 70+ markets, a complete domain rebrand, and the launch of WISE Platform for banks.
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Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode we sit down with Dr Suhail Hussain, a private GP (primary-care physician) with 20 years of frontline experience who’s generated 115 five-star Google reviews by rebuilding the doctor-patient relationship around trust, face-to-face care and tech-driven convenience. After witnessing the NHS’s pandemic-era bottlenecks, Dr Hussain launched a concierge-style practice that offers same-day home visits, direct messaging and subscription-based peace of mind.
Key Talking Points
✅ Why COVID-19 Broke the Traditional GP Model – and why many practices still haven’t recovered
✅ 30-Minute Minimums & Home Visits – The service differentiators patients will gladly pay for
✅ Google Business Profile Mastery – How 115 ★★★★★ reviews outrank paid ads and feed Gemini recommendations
✅ Subscription Healthcare in the UK – Pricing, ethics and why insurers may soon cover primary care
✅ Human vs. AI – Where large language models help (diagnostics, discovery) and where empathy still wins
✅ Emerging Patient Journeys – From “Private GP Watford” searches to ChatGPT referrals
✅ Marketing Tactics that Work – Local SEO, review requests and WhatsApp word-of-mouth
✅ Advice for GPs Considering the Leap – Clinical readiness, pricing, and avoiding common pitfalls
Quotes from Dr Suhail Hussain
📢 “Medicine is a human interaction—AI can’t replace empathy or a reassuring hand on the shoulder.”
📢 “We’ve hit 115 five-star reviews with one simple tactic: ask every satisfied patient the moment we finish.”
📢 “Patients now tell ChatGPT they can’t get an NHS appointment—and it replies with my name and number.”
📢 “In a single home visit I might treat three generations. Continuity is back on the table.”
📢 “Private care isn’t just for the ultra-rich; a subscription model can cost less than many gym memberships.”
Actionable Insights for Listeners
🚀 Focus on GMB & Reviews – Optimise your Google Business Profile and ask every happy client for a rating
🔍 Leverage LLM Discovery – Ensure your online footprint (reviews, authority content) is LLM-friendly
🩺 Offer Relationship-Driven Care – Longer appointments and direct messaging justify premium pricing
📈 Test Subscription Models – Recurring revenue smooths cash flow and lowers per-visit barriers for patients
🤝 Maintain Clinical Integrity – Paying clients may push for unnecessary treatments—stick to evidence-based care
🧑⚕️ Build Personal Brand Authority – Publish local health tips on LinkedIn, Instagram and YouTube to dominate search
About Dr Suhail Hussain
Dr Suhail Hussain is a fifth-generation physician and private GP based in Hertfordshire, UK. After two decades in the NHS, he founded a concierge practice that delivers high-touch, same-day care for families and executives through home visits, corporate medicals and direct-access memberships.
🌐 Learn more or book a visit: drsuhailhussain.com
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Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode, we welcome Josh Peacock, founder of SEO for Hire and Paid Media Jobs, who has helped over 100 top-tier agencies build elite marketing teams across SEO and paid media. Josh reveals what clients are really looking for today, how AI is reshaping recruitment, and why SEO roles are booming—despite the constant “SEO is dead” noise.
We dive into how his agency offers 12-month satisfaction guarantees, the evolution of hiring expectations, and the traits modern SEOs must have to land roles at the most demanding agencies.
Key Talking Points:
✅ Why SEO Is Not Dead – Hiring demand is stronger than ever, especially for strategic and AI-fluent SEOs
✅ SEO Strategist > SEO Specialist – Why full-stack SEO strategists with business acumen are the new top hire
✅ The Rise of Soft Skills – Why clear communication, business impact awareness, and client-facing skills are now essential
✅ AI-Enhanced Hiring – Candidates must show real use cases of AI tools, not just claim ChatGPT experience
✅ Experimentation as a Skill – The best candidates show a test-and-learn mindset and aren't afraid to break things
✅ Digital PR Is Going Global – Why US and AU markets are finally catching up with the UK on digital PR hiring
✅ The New Skillset Barbell – Combining creative virality and automation systems is now a hiring superpower
✅ Emerging Talent Markets – Why Josh is bullish on South African, UK, and South American SEO operators
✅ Content Hiring is Changing – Fewer bulk writers, more strategic creators with high editorial judgment
✅ Client Comms as a Differentiator – Why SEOs who can speak the business language are more in demand than ever
Quotes from Josh Peacock:
📢 “If SEO were dead, I wouldn’t be hiring senior roles every week—this is the busiest we’ve ever been.”
📢 “We offer a 12-month placement guarantee. If the candidate leaves at 11.5 months, we replace them for free.”
📢 “The best candidates don’t just show up—they screen-share custom GPTs they’ve built to solve real business problems.”
📢 “Gone are the days of ticking a few boxes. SEOs now need to directly impact the bottom line.”
📢 “We're entering a golden era where the rules haven’t been written yet. That’s huge opportunity for those who test, learn, and adapt.”
📢 “The UK still has the sharpest SEO talent—but we're relocating them globally now.”
Actionable Insights for Listeners:
🚀 Don’t Just Apply—Demonstrate – Share real-world examples of AI tools or automations you’ve built
📈 Build Business Acumen – Know how your SEO efforts reduce churn, increase signups, or improve LTV
🧠 Adopt the Barbell Skillset – Combine creative instincts with technical automation skills to stand out
🔍 Prepare for Multi-Platform Search – Companies are looking for SEOs who understand LLMs, Reddit SEO, and YouTube optimization
🗣 Embrace Communication – Being able to clearly explain SEO to non-SEOs is now a competitive advantage
🌍 Hire Globally, Vet Deeply – South Africa, South America, and Eastern Europe are rising talent hubs—but communication matters
📝 Content Strategy Is Shifting – High-volume writing is down; strategic content creation and repurposing are up
🔗 Invest in Digital PR – Link earning and brand mentions are more valuable than ever in AI-led ranking environments
About Josh Peacock:
Josh Peacock is the founder of SEO4Hire and Paid Media Jobs, agencies built to help digital marketing companies find elite SEO and paid media talent that actually performs. With a background in sales and recruitment, and clients ranging from startups to Fortune 500 firms, Josh is reshaping how performance-focused teams are built in the age of AI.
🌐 Hire elite SEO & media talent:
→ SEO for Hire
→ Paid Media Jobs
🔎 Connect with Josh on LinkedIn
📺 Subscribe to his YouTube channel
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
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Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode, we’re joined by Vladimir Ghilien, better known online as Vlad the Lad—a strategic communications expert who spent 13 years in content and copywriting before leading high-level partner communications and brand building at Odys.
We unpack Vlad’s journey from freelancing to hosting one of the most engaging roundtable SEO shows in the space, how live podcasting created unexpected brand results, and why personal and corporate brand voice matters more than ever in the AI age.
Key Talking Points:
✅ How Odys Talks Worked – Behind the scenes of one of the most unique roundtable podcasts in the SEO world
✅ Building Community Through Live Conversations – Why bringing 3–4 experts together created deeper brand reach
✅ Personal vs. Corporate Brand Voice – Why tone and human connection matter more than technical messaging
✅ Strategic Communications in 2025 – How Vlad helps companies define their message and align team culture with external voice
✅ The Long Game of Brand Content – Why roundtables don’t deliver instant ROI but pay off through trust and recognition
✅ Sharing Strategy – How peer interaction made it more likely guests would promote the episodes
✅ Planning a Live Roundtable – The pre-chat strategy that helps guests break the ice and flow naturally on air
✅ Why Businesses Need a Face – Human touchpoints as the emotional connectors that influence client decisions
Quotes from Vladimir Ghilien:
📢 “I've hosted podcasts where a quiet guest turns electric in a group setting—if you get the chemistry right, magic happens.”
📢 “Most roundtables don’t go viral, but they plant seeds—people remember you, even a year later.”
📢 “Personal brand voice is about channeling a real personality. Corporate voice? That’s about making a whole team sound unified and human.”
📢 “When your face is out there, people relate. Even if they don’t know what your company does yet.”
📢 “It’s the era of AI—but only people can sell the idea behind the product.”
Actionable Insights for Listeners:
🎙 Host with Strategy – Invite multiple guests with overlapping but distinct areas of expertise to create natural cross-conversations
🤝 Humanize the Brand – Assign a team member (not just the founder) to be the company’s public voice and emotional connection
📅 Pre-Chat Builds Chemistry – Introduce guests in a group chat days before the recording to create rapport and break the ice
📈 Don’t Chase Viral – Focus on long-term brand recall and visibility, not immediate leads
🛠 Differentiate Brand Voice – Use deep team interviews to inform your brand voice, especially for corporate identity projects
🎥 Go Live if You Can – Natural imperfections and audience interaction make live shows more relatable and sticky
About Vladimir Ghilien:
Vladimir Guillen is a strategic communication consultant with 13+ years of experience in content writing and branding. Formerly leading partner and influencer marketing at Odys, he now works with startups and agencies to shape communication strategies that resonate on a human level. Vlad is known for his dynamic approach to podcasting, content strategy, and turning brand tone into a strategic asset.
🌐 Connect with Vlad on LinkedIn
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
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Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode, we’re joined by Pete McPherson, AI SaaS founder, blogger, podcaster, and the definition of a content machine. Pete has launched over 100 different projects—most of which failed—but has now found his groove launching profitable micro-SaaS tools using AI in as little as 3 days.
We dive into how he went from months-long builds to shipping tools in hours, what “vibe coding” actually means, and why right now might be the best window in tech history to build and sell simple software—even without a dev background.
Key Talking Points:
✅ From Failure to Flow – Pete’s 15-year journey and how AI finally helped him break through coding limitations
✅ Vibe Coding Defined – Why “just chatting with an AI” is transforming the development process
✅ From 3 Months to 3 Days – How learning a few key dev concepts allowed Pete to 10x his output
✅ The Massive Opportunity in Micro-SaaS – Why simple, single-feature tools can disrupt giants like Calendly & Ahrefs
✅ Marketing Without an Audience – How Pete grew a tool to 6-figures by partnering with the right person
✅ Tools of Choice – Pete’s entire stack, from SvelteKit and Firebase to Cursor and Tailwind
✅ Avoiding Shiny Tool Syndrome – Why “stick with what you know” is the golden rule of building in the AI age
✅ SEO for Indie Devs – How Pete learned to implement metadata, sitemaps, and other key SEO signals
✅ The Coming Agent Era – Pete’s vision of a future where Siri builds your entire funnel on command
Quotes from Pete McPherson:
📢 “I built my first working SaaS tool thanks to AI—and it was harder than raising kids.”
📢 “My second app took three weeks. The third? Three days.”
📢 “If you have a small audience, build a tool they’re already paying too much for.”
📢 “You don’t need to build the next Ahrefs—just rebuild your favorite feature.”
📢 “Stick with one framework, one toolset. It’s how you go from stuck to scaling.”
📢 “In five years, most UI-based tools will be obsolete—agents will handle everything.”
Actionable Insights for Listeners:
🚀 Embrace “Vibe Coding” – Use tools like Cursor or Windsurf with a clear stack in mind (e.g., SvelteKit, Firebase)
🔎 Find Micro Opportunities – Identify bloated SaaS tools and rebuild a single feature at 10% of the price
🤝 Pitch Partnerships – If you don’t have an audience, partner with someone who does and offer to do all the work
📈 Launch Fast, Learn Fast – Don’t chase perfect products—launch MVPs and iterate
🧰 Use Pete’s Stack – SvelteKit, Tailwind, Firebase, Stripe, Cursor, and Vercel
📣 Default to AI – When stuck on technical SEO or site setup, ask AI (GPT or Claude) for step-by-step help
About Pete McPherson:
Pete McPherson is an indie hacker, AI SaaS founder, and longtime content creator who’s turned his chaotic start—100+ failed projects—into a system for shipping fast, profitable micro tools. He blogs, builds, and vibes at the intersection of creators and software, helping others do the same.
📬 Learn more and join Pete’s newsletter: https://petemcpherson.com
🌐 Connect with Pete on LinkedIn
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
🌍 https://marketmoverspod.com
Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand—where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode, we’re joined by Arthur Favier, Founder and CEO of Oppizi, the fast-scaling offline marketing platform powering campaigns for global giants like Uber, TikTok, and DoorDash across 12 countries. Arthur walks us through how his company is bringing offline marketing into the digital age—with full-funnel tracking, real-time optimization, and AI-powered logistics that make flyering as data-driven as Facebook Ads.
We dive deep into how direct mail and flyering are being reinvented with lookalike targeting, CRM integrations, and even AI agents booking shifts for brand ambassadors. If you thought offline was dead—this episode will absolutely change your mind.
🔑 Key Talking Points:
✅ Offline Marketing, Reimagined – How Oppizi turns leaflets, flyers, and direct mail into hyper-personalized, trackable campaigns.
✅ Why Big Brands Love Real-World Ads – How TikTok, Uber, and DoorDash use offline channels to acquire customers at scale.
✅ Direct Mail + AI = Lookalike Targeting – How B2C companies can send mail to people who mirror their best customers, just like Meta’s ad tech.
✅ From Printing to Redemption – What it takes to track 500,000 unique coupon codes—and why it protects against promo leaks.
✅ Offline Retargeting vs. Digital Cookies – Why Oppizi’s data may be more accurate than online retargeting in the cookieless future.
✅ Live Optimization with QR & CRM Data – How Oppizi adapts campaigns in real-time based on scan behavior and CRM integrations.
✅ AI Agents Making Phone Calls – Yes, seriously. AI now recruits and schedules field teams with natural-sounding phone calls.
✅ Expanding into 12 Global Markets – Lessons from launching in the U.S., U.K., Australia, and beyond.
💬 Quotes from Arthur Favier:
📢 “Offline marketing was forgotten. We’re making it smart again—with APIs, automation, and live optimization.”
📢 “If you’re sending out 500,000 flyers and don’t use unique coupon codes—you’re one plugin away from losing thousands of dollars.”
📢 “You can now A/B test flyers like you test landing pages. Real-time data tells you which color or offer performs best.”
📢 “Our AI makes 1,000+ calls a day to recruit and schedule brand ambassadors—no human involvement needed.”
📢 “You can now build a customer journey in the real world that’s as trackable and scalable as anything online.”
🎯 Actionable Insights for Listeners:
🚀 Use Lookalike Targeting for Direct Mail – Take your best customer data and find offline prospects who mirror them.
🔗 Leverage Unique QR & Discount Codes – Assign codes per recipient to precisely measure ROI and prevent coupon leakage.
📊 Integrate CRM & Stripe with Your Campaigns – Track full-funnel attribution from print to purchase.
🧠 Deploy AI for Field Operations – Use trained AI agents to schedule staff, follow up on recruitment, and reduce friction.
🌍 Scale Smart in New Markets – Build your tech stack before you expand; logistics and compliance differ everywhere.
👤 About Arthur Favier:
Arthur is the Founder & CEO of Oppizi, a global offline marketing platform operating in 12 countries. Oppizi empowers brands to execute real-world campaigns with the same precision and tracking they expect from digital. With a background in tech and growth, Arthur has turned old-school media into a data-rich channel trusted by some of the world’s biggest B2C brands.
📬 Learn more about Oppizi:
🌐 Connect with Arthur Favier on LinkedIn
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
🌍 https://marketmoverspod.com
Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode, we welcome Lea Turner, LinkedIn powerhouse and founder of The Holt—a thriving paid community with 540+ members designed to support small business owners, freelancers, and solopreneurs with affordable, inclusive, and high-impact learning and networking. Lea shares her no-fluff insights on what it really takes to build and maintain an engaged, respectful, and buzzing community from scratch—and why LinkedIn is still a goldmine for audience building if you avoid the hype.
We explore the relationship between community building and personal brand, the strategic use of LinkedIn for lead generation, and how to protect your space from salesy “knobheads” while still fostering real collaboration, connection, and business opportunities.
Key Talking Points:
✅ Growing The Holt to 540+ members in under 3 years—without ad spend
✅ How to build a values-led community that enforces psychological safety
✅ Why “no knobheads” is more than a motto—it’s a business filter
✅ Creating low-cost, high-value offers for bootstrapped solopreneurs
✅ Building trust on LinkedIn before you sell anything
✅ Where the real relationships on LinkedIn actually happen (hint: it’s not in the DMs)
✅ Launching with a waitlist—why audience-first always wins
✅ How Lea transitioned from LinkedIn training to full-time community building
✅ The surprising power of comments, carousels, and karaoke for business growth
✅ What happens when you give more than you ask on social media
Quotes from Lea Turner:
📢 “The Holt is inclusive, affordable, and built on one core value: no knobheads.”
📢 “You don’t have to be the expert—you just need to know who to bring in and what your audience needs.”
📢 “I didn’t need The Holt to work. That gave me freedom to experiment—and it exploded.”
📢 “Most big influencers on LinkedIn are shouting into a void. I built real relationships.”
📢 “Don’t start a DM with a question. Just say something kind. That’s how you start a relationship.”
Actionable Insights for Listeners:
🚀 Want to start a paid community? Begin with a strong audience and a clear ‘why’.
🔍 Build your email list through newsletters, lead magnets, and content that drives trust.
💬 Start in the comments—not the DMs. That’s where relationships on LinkedIn really begin.
⚡ Create automated community prompts to drive daily engagement.
🛑 Enforce your values loudly and publicly—people self-select in or out.
🤝 Leverage your network to deliver expert value—without needing to be the expert yourself.
About Lea Turner:
Lea Turner is a LinkedIn expert and the founder of The Holt, a vibrant online community built for business owners, freelancers, and solopreneurs. Known for her bold branding, no-nonsense tone, and radical inclusivity, Lea helps people grow with integrity—both on and off LinkedIn.
📬 Learn more about The Holt: https://www.the-holt.com/
🌐 Connect with Lea Turner on LinkedIn
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
🌍 https://marketmoverspod.com
Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands and Links with Linkifi!
Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand—where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs.
In this episode, we’re joined by Mike Montague, founder of Avenue Nine, host of the Human First AI Marketing podcast, and author of Playful Humans. Mike’s story spans from coding on a 1986 Apple to running a cutting-edge AI marketing agency. He’s helped companies like HubSpot, Sandler Training, and Cornerstone OnDemand create thousands of pieces of content—and now uses AI to do it in a fraction of the time.
We dive deep into AI-powered content workflows, custom GPTs, knowledge bases, and the balance between human creativity and automation. This is a practical, honest conversation on how small and mid-sized businesses can actually use AI to scale without falling for the “one-click automation” hype.
🔑 Key Talking Points:
✅ From 10,000 Words a Week to Fractional Workloads – How Mike went from full-time ghostwriter to AI-enhanced agency founder.
✅ The 3-Step AI Framework – Context, Marketing Expertise, and Review: the pillars of high-quality AI output.
✅ Building AI Knowledge Bases – Why uploading brand voice, tone, and transcripts makes your GPT smarter with every interaction.
✅ How to Use AI to Create a Funnel – From podcast to social clip to lead magnet and email follow-up—automated, but still human.
✅ Custom GPTs vs RAG Models – Which one wins for content ops and what tradeoffs to expect.
✅ Tool Stack Breakdown – Gamma, Descript, Notebook LM, Grok, ChatGPT, and Formless—what’s worth using and why.
✅ How to Package Micro-SaaS for Niche Audiences – Why now is the time to build tiny AI tools just for your tribe.
✅ Using AI to Learn Faster – How Mike uses LLMs to review his own book, and brainstorm content ideas.
💬 Quotes from Mike Montague:
📢 “I used to spend all day writing blogs. Now I can do 10 times the work in a tenth of the time.”
📢 “If AI content feels soulless, it’s because the human didn’t put their voice or values into it first.”
📢 “You don’t need AI to run your whole company—you need it to save you an hour a day so you can run your company better.”
📢 “People can't steal your audience. They can steal your features, your content, even your ideas—but not the trust you’ve built.”
📢 “More context, more feedback, more iteration—that’s how you train a custom GPT to become your best assistant.”
🎯 Actionable Insights for Listeners:
🧠 Train a Custom GPT – Upload tone-of-voice docs, best emails, transcripts, and feedback to improve your content outputs over time.
🎯 Use the 3-Part Framework – Start with high-quality input, apply marketing strategy, and always human-edit the final product.
🚀 Repurpose Everything – Use one interview to create shorts, blogs, carousels, and lead magnets. Scale with structure.
🔗 Build Niche Microtools – Don’t chase mass-market AI tools. Build something tiny and valuable for your specific audience.
📊 Adopt Tools That Save Hours, Not Seconds – Focus on platforms like Gamma, Descript, and Notebook LM that supercharge your workflow.
👤 About Mike Montague:
Mike is the founder of Avenue Nine, a human-first AI marketing agency that helps small and mid-sized businesses amplify their content through smart automation. He is also the host of the Human First AI Marketing podcast and author of Playful Humans. A pioneer in the sales + tech + content world, Mike’s focus is on making AI work for humans, not the other way around.
📬 Learn more at: https://avenue9.com
🎧 Listen to the Human First AI Marketing Podcast
📕 Read Playful Humans
🔗 Connect with Mike on LinkedIn
🚀 Build Your Brand with Real Links
At Linkifi, we help ambitious brands scale organic visibility through digital PR, brand storytelling, and SEO strategy. Book your FREE strategy session today:
🔗 https://calendly.com/linkifi/pr
👋 Connect with your hosts:
👉 Chris Panteli on LinkedIn
👉 Nick Biggs on LinkedIn
🎧 Listen to more Market Movers episodes:
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