Claim OwnershipDifferent with Steve Chalke and Jill Rowe
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We’d like to introduce you to a new podcast. It’s called Different. But why different?
You know how when you’re wearing sunglasses it puts a tint on everything? Or if you wear glasses you see some things in focus and others out of focus?
Well, we all have lenses on the inside of our head too. And they tint, colour and shape everything we see, think and understand.
So, on this podcast Steve Chalke and Jill Rowe are going to dive headlong into just that as they discover a new ‘meaning making’ story and embrace a fresh way of thinking about life, the universe and everything in-between.
They will talk about getting to a place where we see our lives as part of something bigger than our day-to-day experience - becoming a part of an unfolding story. Finding joy in ordinary moments, facing failure and struggle and discovering liberation and purpose.
They’ll also discuss experiencing life as a gift and learning how to live on purpose. They’ll be peering into dark nights of the soul and finding hope. And simply learning how we are here to walk each home.
We hope you enjoy these conversations – discovering a new story and embracing new thinking.
This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about the power of trust and the need for honesty. They begin, though, with love and discuss how this is the foundation to it all.They chat about the importance of intent and motivation when honesty is at play and genuinely wanting the best for others. We owe it to people to be honest with them. Whether it's at work, home.Marriage, relationships, friendships, honesty and trust really matter. They talk about the Stockdale Paradox and see that it is through being honest that we are able to become our better selves and grow trust, too.We pray this episode is helpful to you.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about learning. We discuss how learning needs to be deep and goes far beyond just remembering facts. We all need to grow wisdom, too.We talk about the richness of neurodiversity rather than neuroformity. And we see the wonder and necessity of the invitation to all of us to go deeper and deeper in our learning for the sake of both ourselves and the world around us.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about the importance of waging peace and not war. For that to happen, we all need to see the vital importance of really listening to others. We simply have to listen and we recognise that, in truth, we only win when we all win, we can learn to not let anger get hold of and grip us, and as the brilliant Desmond Tutu said, if we want peace, we have to talk to our enemies, not just our friends. In fact, we are invited to love our enemies. This episode feels so important for right now, we hope that you will join us in waging peace.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about the wonder of ambiguity, starting from observing a Spanish Town Square in a power cut, all the way to how we can develop the ability to find our way in the dark when we aren't feeling sure at all. So much of life is navigated in ambiguity. So together, we chat about how we can grow to not despise it, but welcome it and see it all as a creative invitation. We realize once more, the anchor of vision and see the truth that we don't need to know everything to take the next step. We just need to know enough and we also need enough foolishness to believe that we can do what needs to be done.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this second part of 'Beyond the Barricades', Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about standing with courage in the face of fear as we speak and stand up for justice, compassion, and inclusion.Together, we explore how power can be so enticing for all of us. And we remind ourselves that we must speak out even when our voice is shaken, shaking, and even when we think we might lose it all.Responding to the invitation to embrace fear as we seek to live love out loud. In the end, we see that courage is a muscle we can always strengthen. Acting justly, loving mercy and walking humbly.This is the path we are invited to take, and this is how we will all find our voice.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about not waiting for the cavalry, but instead realising we are the ones we've been waiting for.We explore how change comes from a dedicated small band of people who stand up and work for a world they can see beyond the barricades. We think through why we believe everyone else is responsible rather than us, which is actually a huge deception.And we recognise that we all have agency and there always exists the invitation to participate in creating change. We hope this episode gives you the courage to shift, move and pivot so that we can all, all move beyond the barricades together.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk all about distress, eustress and de-stress. This episode is all about pressure. We discuss how it shows up in our bodies, its physiological impact.We think about what we can do when it feels like it is all becoming too much. We even talk about tears. We reflect on the story and power of wilderness and how the pressure of a wilderness can be an invitation that can mould and shape us into the very kind of people we long to be more compassionate, more present, more humble.We pray that this episode helps you as you navigate pressure and the crucible that life can be.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk all about blame. We can all jump to blame so easily, and we find it hard to take responsibility when we've done something wrong and say sorry.Blame is a shortcut. In this episode, we pay attention to the power of self reflection, self awareness, self compassion, and the decision of forgiveness. This was a super honest and, we hope, helpful conversation.There's plenty of joy in this one too.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about our response to the TV series 'Adolescence'. We discuss how all young people spell love T-I-M-E.It's the most precious commodity we can ever give to a child. Along with our presence, we see that understanding what is happening physiologically in a young person helps us to know more full fully what and how we need to be in their orbit.And we see that being involved and engaged with them through our time and our presence builds a protective layer. It's not a magic formula, but it gives a much stronger foundation. From simple ideas to important insights.This conversation was so rich. We pray it helps you as you navigate all the wonder and complexity of life together.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about Oasis being 40 years old. It was so much fun looking back over those 40 years together. So many people, so much learning and so much joy. What we discover through all of it is the value of having purpose and meaning and the belief that your life counts and that the way of Jesus is summed up in loving others as we love ourselves so that no one is left out.Celebrating people, supporting people, speaking up and speaking out. Compassion, inclusion, love. That is our task, our responsibility, and our joy at Oasis. Here's to the next 40.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about the reality of inclusion. This conversation is a big one, and so timely. We talk about the power of loving our enemies and how it's us who's transformed when we do that, when it is easy to blame and other others, when we explore the better way and what it looks like to live in the reality of truly belonging to each other.We hope this helps you dive deeper and build inclusion.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
There is a lot going on in life at the moment, both generally and in politics and globally. All of this can feel overwhelming and heavy. My name's Jill Rowe, and in this episode of the Different podcast, I talk with Steve Chalke about how we can not just make sense of things, but how we can also find our way through and be people who keep moving forward. We explore the ideas of perspective and choice and community and faith and opting always to do good. And we see how all these things can stabilise us.We can use our agency and power to do the better thing, always.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about how leadership is all about the granular, and not the hype. We chat through where our model for what great leadership comes from, and what it looks like in practice, and together we reflect on some of the trappings that those who find themselves carrying the responsibility of leadership might get caught up in things like power, privilege and the temptation of perks.The reality of a Christ-centred approach to leadership is quite different. A revolution, in fact, a revolution that we believe the world really needs.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke explore how life's just far too short for holding grudges. It's too short to miss precious moments, too short to only care about ourselves, and far too short to spend excessive amounts of time scrolling our phones.We explore why we might do these things in the first place. Even just chatting about all this stuff gave us both the chance to reflect on our own choices and what little adjustments and changes we might make in our own lives.It's always so helpful to reflect.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about another one of the Oasis 9 habits, this time being patient. From starting with a realisation, from being in a dentist's chair to understanding that life is not meant to be done continually at high speed, we explore how patience can be the teacher of wisdom.The will help us to do life well. We see the great depth in the wisdom of slow. And we realise it is no wonder that St. Paul described that love is always patient.This one was fun and deep all at the same time.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk all about being honest. They talk about the ZOUD, the zone of uncomfortable discussion, and we try to understand why we sometimes dance around being honest and the overwhelming feeling of fearing disconnection from others if we choose honesty as our path.And in a world where honesty can seem in short supply, we can't help but notice how dishonesty erodes trust. This topic matters. We hope this episode begins a conversation that you will feel able to keep going with your people too.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about what it means to be considerate. Strangely, it's a word that we don't hear or think about that often. But through their chat, we see that to consider is perhaps one of the most powerful ways to transform our way of behaving in the world.To consider the other, to pay attention to, to have our eyes on the needs of others. It really does seem that it is the simple things that are the source of the greatest revolution, that is, to love others as ourselves.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about finding the joy, sharing the words of a friend who's described joy as basic to us as oxygen.They discuss where we find joy and the way we cultivate being joyful in life. They seek to understand the difference it can make to us personally and also in our relationships.And they go right back to basics when we recognise that joy exists in the most unexpected moments and places.Gratitude is the seedbed for joy.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke go big on Christmas.From their favourite Christmas movies to the most random of gifts they've given, to the power of the Christmas story, as they explore it as the greatest revolution the world has ever seen, and ever been invited to participate in. They see it as the ultimate peace plan where love wins.There was a whole load of joy and laughter in this episode, as well as some unexpected discoveries.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
My name is Jill Rowe, and in this episode of the Different podcast, I talk with Steve Chalke all about rejection. This is a significant topic that evokes profound emotions. Together, we explore the difference it makes when we acknowledge the way rejection can make us feel, and we consider how we can find a way through it. We discuss discovering both a new way of seeing and a greater expansiveness to life.This was an honest and open chat, and one that we both hope brings you some comfort, and perhaps a sense of renewal.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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