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Six Minute Mile Podcast is bringing you news, ideas, inspirational stories, and special deals for runners and fitness enthusiasts. We are athletes ourselves. Runners, CrossFitters, Barry’s Boot Campers, skiers, cyclists, and mud racers. We like to sweat. If you’re reading this right now, the odds are pretty good that you do too. Let’s have some fun together.
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For the first time in 18 months, some of the top race directors in America gathered this week to share best practices and to explain what fall races will look like for runners. Will there be expos? Will you have to wear a mask on the course? Will you be asked to show a vaccine card? What about wave starts and post race parties -- will they happen? We got the answers to these questions and many more from the 6 race directors we cornered at a conference produced by the organizers of the Chicago Marathon. Before we dive into that conversation, we wanted to share a few words from Mike Nishi, Chief Operating Officer of the Chicago Marathon, as he explains the goal of this conference and why so many race directors chose to fly to Chicago to trade ideas about producing the safest possible events this fall and beyond.
Christine Bowen: Vice President of Programming, Partnerships and Operations for Running USA https://www.runningusa.org/
Andrea Dowdy - CEO of the Denver Colfax Marathon https://www.runcolfax.org/
Jon Hughes - Track Shack Co-owner and Race Director of the Walt Disney World Marathon https://www.trackshack.com/
Michelle Juehring - Race Director for the Quad Cities Times Bix 7 https://bix7.com/
Michelle La Sala - Founder and President of Blistering Pace Race Management https://blisteringpace.com/
Steve Lastoe - Founder and CEO NYCRUNS https://nycruns.com/
Michael Nishi - Chief Operating Officer of Chicago Event Management, General Manager of Bank of America Chicago Marathon https://www.chicagomarathon.com/
We were joined by Amby Burfoot, a man whose life has been centered around his love for running. We talk about his early years of competitive running highlighted by his 1968 Boston Marathon victory and relationship with Six Minute Mile Podcast alumni and his former roommate, Bill Rodgers. Amby talks about the progress running has made in making the sport more inclusive and equal and also where there is still room for improvement. Amby then walks us through his transition from competitive to recreational runner and why he is a fan of the 30 miles a week regiment over a grueling 100 miler. We move on to his life as a writer and journalist with Runner's World magazine and his decades-long career there, which got its jump-start from the help of another SMM guest, Hal Higdon. As usual, we end our conversation with some rapid-fire questions regarding his taste in books, movies and running preferences.
If you’ve ever run, or watched the Bank of America Chicago Marathon, you’ve probably wondered how everything comes together to create such an inspiring, well organized, large scale event. Mike Nishi is the Chief Operating Officer for the Bank of America Chicago Marathon and the architect behind that race day organization. He talks to us about how his passion for organization translates to race day operations. Another of Mike’s passions is sustainability. Recognized in the Running Industry, as a leader for sustainability, Mike takes us through how the Bank of American Chicago tested compostable cups. Ever wonder how all those volunteers get onboard, trained and assigned? Mike shares insight into his amazing team, and how they align their values with that of the volunteers, with the target of retention and appreciation. Last but not least, Mike shares his routine that helps him manage stress, a very intentional routine of stretching, meditation and creating boundaries between work and family.
Dick Beardsley is the ultimate story teller, as he talked to us about his running, personal life and shared some Beardsleyism’s. Dick detailed 1981 London Marathon, and how he and Inge Simonsen crossed the finish line, in first place, hand in hand. Then Dick takes us down memory lane with the 1982 Boston Marathon (Duel in the Sun), where Dick and Alberto Salazar battled it out the entire 26.2 Miles, with Salazar winning by 1.6 Seconds. Dick has overcome a lot in life and he shares with us his “glass is ALWAYS half full” attitude. He shares details of the injuries that led to his pain killer addiction, and how he recovered. Just when he thought he would never deal with anything that painful again, then he lost his son to PTSD. Dick can’t image not sharing these experiences, as he feels everyone can learn, grow and find something positive from the most tragic situations.
Author of The Story of the Human Body (https://amzn.to/39q3bvi) and most recently Exercised: Why Something We Never Evolved to Do Is Healthy and Rewarding (https://amzn.to/2Pchhda), Dr Daniel Lieberman is a paleoanthropologist and Professor of Human Evolutionary Biology at Harvard University. He has studied the evolution of the human head, but his main focus is currently on the evolution of the human physical activity. He has lived with cultures, all over the globe, to explain the science of how and why we move today. Research specifically related to activities such as walking, running as well as changes to our body's environments can help prevent injuries and treat musculoskeletal diseases.
Max has played basketball most of his life and has always been a good ball handler. At the same time, he is a strong miler, training with the Hartbeat Track Club (https://www.hartbeattc.org/). When you combine his two super powers, you have an opportunity for a unique World Record - Mile While Dribbling a Basketball – 4:30.38!! His brother noticed that the record was in reach and challenged him to make the record breaking attempt. With friends and family (https://bit.ly/3r7wXeo) pacing, recording, and timing him, Max broke Dylan Sorenson’s record by 3.35 seconds. Max’s running story is more about determination and overcoming adversity than it is about his word record. Max talks to us about what inspires him to run, health challenges he has had to overcome, and motivates us to persevere in our own running.
John “The Penguin” Bingham has been called the Pied Piper of the second running boom. His column, The Penguin Chronicles (https://bit.ly/3bJaWyh), resonated with and inspired an entire generation of runners. In the Chronicles, the Penguin never gets old and is always having a great time, embracing his “back of the pack” speed, with his goal of having fun and crossing the finish line. John has completed over 40 marathons and written several books, most notably The Courage To Start (https://amzn.to/3cumCnF) and No Need for Speed (https://amzn.to/3bIkfyl). In this interview, John talks to us about how he transitioned from a sedentary life to one that was healthier and more active. By writing about his race experiences, with his own unique sense of humor, John has delivered a message of hope and inspiration to anyone that hopes to run, or has been running a lifetime.
Jonathan Shubert is an amateur cyclist, (and science teacher) that recently broke a 27-year-old record. Jonathan rode his bike, on the open road, for 100 miles in under 3 hours - 2 Hours, 57 minutes. An impressive feat, but when you consider that he also had a mechanical issue and the roads were open to traffic, it becomes an extraordinary achievement. He talks to us about becoming “slippery in the air”, and how a $500 suit that makes you more aerodynamic is more valuable than a $6,000 bike. Since the age of 6, Jonathan aspired to be the British 24 cycling Champion, from the inspiration of his grandfather, who was also a British cycling record holder. He has cycled around the globe, finding that cycling is the best way to see a country. The true inspiration from talking to Jonathan comes from his motivation to break the 3-hour -100 mile cycling record - like Roger Bannister's 4-minute mile, Jonathan wants to inspire people to do more than they believe that they can achieve.
Do you spend your time cooking spaghetti? What does a dog look like? How do you find peace with food and peace with your body? Nancy Clark answers these questions, along with several other nutrition questions we had for her. Nancy (https://nancyclarkrd.com) is a registered dietician (RD) and board certified specialist in sport dietetics (CSSD). In layman’s terms, she is a food coach and nutrition educator. Nancy has worked with the Boston Celtics, the Boston Red Sox and many elite and Olympic athletes from several sports. When it comes to sports nutrition, Nancy wrote the book, literally, she wrote The Sports Nutrition Guide Book (https://bit.ly/3kxAtgH), which is now in its 6th edition and has sold over 750,000 copies. Listen to our conversation with Nancy to learn the impact that nutrition plays in our performance.
Paula (https://bit.ly/2YU6yFf) has won the London Marathon and the New York City Marathon, each three times and the Bank of America Chicago Marathon, once, in 2002. She captured the Gold Medal in the 2005 Marathon World Championships in Helsinki. Paula held the title of the world’s fastest woman marathon runner for over 16 years, clocking 2:15:25, until 2019, when her record was broken by Bridgid Kosgei.
Inspired to run at a young age, by her father’s passion for sport. Paula gained a lot of running knowledge from her father, that she shares - such as how to run downhill to create a gap. She also shares some real wisdom, of marathon running – "respect the distance, but don’t be afraid of it". Paula explains the value for all of us to have role models that help you break your own belief barriers.
As if that wasn’t enough, we talk about parenting. Paula becomes reflective when she shares with us that most people don’t realize how great their parents are, while they are growing up. We discuss the importance of learning to make decisions and living with those decisions.
Hal Higdon has written over 34 books, most notably Marathon the Ultimate Training Guide (https://amzn.to/3pCU1Si) and created several training programs, that can be found on his site – Run with Hal https://www.halhigdon.com/. Hal competed 8 times in the Olympic Trials, his best performance came in 1960, when he finished 5th in the 3,000-meter steeplechase. He has run over 110 marathons, his best clocking his best performance in the 1964 Boston Marathon, where Hal placed 5th overall, after leading through the first 19 miles and crying at the finish line – tears of heartache and joy. Heartache from not winning and joy from setting his best time. In 1975 Hal set a World Masters Championship M40 record of 9:18.6 in the steeplechase, which holds as the longest standing American Masters record. Hal has been running competitively for 75 years and shares with us what he has learned about training and nutrition.
When Cal Ripken set his unbelievable streak of 2,632 games played, he had the mindset of “No days off”. Dane Rauschenberg had the same mindset in 2006, when he set out to run 52 different marathons on 52 weekends, throughout the year. He made the decision that there would be no make-up dates, no do-overs, but instead a full marathon every weekend. In the process, Dane raised over $43,000 for the L’Arche Organization (https://www.larcheusa.org/) and effectively ran negative splits throughout the year, by clocking his fastest races at the end of the year. As if that wasn’t enough, he did this while working full time and only missed four days of work during the year. Dane talks to us about training, “you don’t need to win the workout, save it for race day”, and how to run a sub three-hour marathon. Also an author, Dane has written Run This Place: 52 Must Run Races in North America (https://amzn.to/2Y59PRK) a summation of the best 52 races, out of the 400 races that Dane has competed in.
This race smells like up dawg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6kXrSE8GoQ) What’s up dawg?? In the year of a pandemic, when live races were canceled, Keira D’Amato created her own race – The Updawg 10 Miler. With the help of Phil Stewart and the Credit Union Cherry Blossom, Keira put together a closed course 10 mile race, won the race, and set a new American 10 Mile record. F. Scott Fitzgerald once said, “there is no second act in American lives.” Keira proves Mr. Fitzgerald wrong, after taking a “long halftime show”, starting back into running for fun, and now the “Running Realtor” has a 10 Mile American Record and placed 15th in the Olympic Marathon Trials. Keira was a high school standout, an All-American in College, then after an injury, running “broke up with her”, this wicked smart lady has found a way to balance elite running, and a career in real estate, all while raising a family.
Have you ever wanted to conduct a business meeting, while on a 30K run around London? Marcus talks to us about how to juggle a busy life of the business world and training for ultra marathons. Marcus was a professional rugby player from the age of 18, until he retired in 2010. He is now an extreme athlete, coach, and entrepreneur. Marcus has competed in 30 marathons in 30 days, a 250K self-supported race across the Sahara Desert and 230K self -supported race through Kenya. Marcus finds a fulfilled life with his main hobbies that includes running across the desert, or walking on the beach at sunrise. Marcus has a strong belief that everyone can develop mental strength through physical challenges and stop being scared of hard work. Marcus explains that big goals, require big processes. Everyone should find the process that helps them climb their “Everest”. You can connect with Marcus and read his blog here http://www.mjdsmith.com/#home
Every writing teacher will tell you to “write what you know”. Jim Knoedel did exactly that, by writing about two fictional track athletes. Jim started his journey as high school track athlete, in Iowa City, Iowa. He then became a walk-on runner on the University of Iowa track team. During his time under legendary coach Francis Cretzmeyer, aka Cretz, Jim heard stories of Jesse Owens and watched Steve Prefontaine at the Drake Relays (almost high fiving him). It was in these days that Jim created the plot of his novel, where two athletes, from different eras compete against each other. Jim’s writing skills have been well honed by writing countless recruiting letters, during his years as a track coach at Northwestern, Loyola and UIC. Recruiting letters written so well, that athletes would keep them and refer to them later in their careers. If you’ve ever wondered, who was better, Jesse Owens or Carl Lewis? Michael Jordan or Lebron James? In A Golden Era – A Tale of Two Runners https://amzn.to/36xU0bs you have an opportunity to imagine those scenarios existing.
Is ketchup a vegetable? How do you bring together two passions in life - sports and nutrition, and make them a career? Andrew answers both of these questions for us on this podcast episode. Andrew is a writer that blogs about living well, habits for happiness, productivity and success. He has done countless hours of research on the Blue Zones (regions of the World where people live beyond 100 years old), with the goal of living the longest, healthiest and most productive life he can live. Lucky for all of us, Andrew is willing to share his research. He routinely writes on his blog http://www.andrewmerle.com/blogon topics such as; Living to be 100 https://bit.ly/3mpzYV0The Eating Habits of the Best Athletes in the World https://bit.ly/3oVqfHE Why You Should be a Morning Person https://bit.ly/34g0LNz and many more health and lifestyle habits.
For most of us, our decisions don't carry the weight of one that faced Deena. In 2006 she had to make a difficult decision – Win the Boston Marathon or run the London Marathon and push the marathon record out of reach. She talks to us about how her dog helped her make this decision and how she trained to break the American Marathon Record at the 2006 London Marathon. The American Record is one of many accolades for Deena - an 8-time National Cross Country Champion, 8-time collegiate All-American, 4-time SEC Champion, two silver medals in World Cross Country Championships, Women’s Road 10 mile record, Women’s 15K record, Women’s 8K record. Additionally, Deena is an author, of Let Your Mind Run: A Memoir of Thinking My Way to Victory https://amzn.to/3gDITRC and is currently working on writing a cookbook.
Dr. Ratey was seeing patients for ADD in the early 80's, when he accidently discovered the connection between physical activity and brain function. John and a former student of John's, were able to self-diagnose their own ADD and realized that they were able to function by self-medicating, through physical activity. This connection of physical activity and brain function led John to a groundbreaking research on aggression, autism and ADD. John talks to us about "Miracle Gro" for the brain and how to develop your brain, with activity, during all stages of life, as well as how to overcome the Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD), that so many people deal with during the long winter months. John has written 11 books, most notably; Go Wild: Free Your Body and Mind From the Afflictions of Civilization https://amzn.to/2L1JHUF and Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain https://amzn.to/2JAalDk.
Seven weeks after a clear mammogram, Fitz found a lump on her breast. She is clear in telling us what her next steps where, she didn’t look at WebMD, she didn’t call her friend, she called the DAMN Doctor and made an immediate appointment. Fitz bravely whooped up on breast cancer, all the while continuing her schedule of race announcing. She chronicles it all in her book My Noisy Cancer Comeback: Running at the Mouth, While Running for My Life https://rb.gy/84nx9h Fitz calls her book a love letter written to the entire Running Industry for keeping her going through the challenges of breast cancer. As a race announcer, Fitz is there for the speedsters, as well as, the back of pack runners. She is the energy that sends you off at the start line and cheers you on as you make your way to the finish.
Most runners, at some point in their life, will experience an injury or two. Brodie is on a one-man mission to eliminate and prevent the most common running injuries. Brodie has simplified the complex reasons that most running injuries occur and debunks the myth that injuries are from a lack of stretching. Brodie breaks down running misconceptions and brings clarity to every injured runner.
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