The Legal Innovation Forum Podcast

In this episode of ADB Insights – The Legal Innovation Forum Podcast, Andrew Bowyer, Founder & CEO of The Legal Innovation Forum, speaks with Mark Smolik, General Counsel and Board Member at DHL Supply Chain Americas. Mark shares his remarkable career journey and evolving leadership role within one of the world’s largest logistics and supply chain organizations. He unpacks how his legal team is leveraging artificial intelligence to streamline operations, drive efficiencies, and help redefine what it means to be an in-house legal department in today’s risk-on, tech-driven environment. As a vocal advocate for innovation in legal services, Mark offers candid advice for general counsel looking to create their own innovation playbook—focusing on mindset, team development, and aligning legal with business strategy. He also provides a preview of the upcoming Legal Technology and Innovation Summit, where industry leaders will gather to explore the transformative impact of AI across the legal ecosystem. Throughout the conversation, Mark emphasizes the importance of business acumen, data strategy, and collaboration as foundational pillars for modern legal teams—and how lawyers can prepare for the fundamental shifts ahead in client expectations and service delivery.

In this episode of ADB Insights – The Legal Innovation Forum Podcast, Andrew Bowyer, Founder & CEO of the Legal Innovation Forum, sits down with Jeremy Trickett, Executive Vice President, Legal Affairs and Chief Legal Officer at BCI (British Columbia Investment Management Corporation)—one of Canada’s largest institutional investors, with over $250 billion in assets under management. Jeremy reflects on his global legal career and the path that led him to BCI, highlighting the value of embracing discomfort, taking risks, and continuously learning. He shares his leadership philosophy, grounded in the belief that legal teams must be deeply aligned with the business—proactively supporting growth, strategy, and innovation. The conversation explores BCI’s legal department, a high-performing team responsible for navigating complex, multi-jurisdictional matters across private equity, infrastructure, and other investment strategies. Jeremy discusses how legal and compliance play a critical role in the corporation’s long-term investment success—particularly in a global regulatory environment that demands transparency, agility, and operational excellence. This episode also unpacks how BCI fosters a culture of integration, efficiency, and purpose—delivering legal services that are not just responsive, but strategic drivers of client-focused value.

In this episode of ADB Insights – The Legal Innovation Forum Podcast, Andrew Bowyer, Founder & CEO of The Legal Innovation Forum, speaks with Melissa LaFlair, Global Head of Law, Compliance, and Government Relations Strategy and Operations at Manulife. Melissa shares her unconventional career journey—a self-described “patchwork quilt”—and how it led to her current role helping Manulife build an integrated operational foundation across legal, compliance, and government relations. She reflects on pivotal “aha” moments that shaped her thinking about the value of legal work, prompting a shift in focus from output to process and client experience. From navigating today’s “risk-on” environment to managing the evolving impact of AI, Melissa offers a clear-eyed view of how legal functions can better deliver value, make data-driven decisions, and operate more efficiently. She also weighs in on the shifting law firm-client dynamic and how AI is challenging the traditional billable hour model—encouraging firms to rethink how they price, deliver, and build long-term trust. The conversation closes with a candid discussion on the human equation in the AI era—balancing flexibility, engagement, and development in hybrid workplaces, while recognizing the irreplaceable role of human connection, judgment, and leadership in legal organizations.

In this episode of The Legal Innovation Forum Podcast, we sit down with Kim Wolfe, Managing Director + Head of Legal Business Solutions at Wells Fargo, to explore the evolving role of legal operations in managing risk, driving efficiency, and enabling business growth. Kim shares her career journey and how she became a leader in legal business solutions, offering insights into the critical role legal operations plays in risk management, regulatory compliance, and aligning legal strategies with business goals. She discusses how her team navigates emerging regulations and regulatory inquiries, ensuring that legal functions not only mitigate risk but also add strategic value. A recognized change champion, Kim provides her perspective on leadership and team alignment, emphasizing how legal operations professionals can influence positive change within an enterprise. She also delves into the role of CLOC (Corporate Legal Operations Consortium) in fostering industry-wide collaboration and innovation. As AI continues to reshape the legal industry, Kim discusses Wells Fargo’s approach to leveraging AI technology—from task automation that frees up lawyer time to optimizing how legal teams spend time on meetings and data-driven decision-making. Looking ahead to 2025, she shares insights on the evolving role of AI and how it will continue transforming legal workflows. Kim also offers a refreshing take on hiring, talent retention, and building a culture of innovation, highlighting her passion for helping individuals become the best version of themselves. She explains how creating an inspiring, solutions-driven environment naturally leads to strong teams and lasting success. Tune in for a compelling discussion on the future of legal operations, leadership, and technology in a rapidly evolving landscape.

In this episode of The Legal Innovation Forum Podcast, we sit down with Sasa Jarvis, Partner at McMillan LLP to discuss the evolving dynamics of the mining sector and the legal, economic, and geopolitical forces shaping its future. With a focus on Canada’s role in the global supply chain, Sasa provides valuable insights into critical minerals, investment strategies, and policy shifts impacting the industry. The conversation covers major challenges, including Chinese export controls, US tariffs, and the broader impact of government policies in British Columbia and other Canadian regions. Sasa breaks down the growing importance of critical minerals, the pressures facing exploration-stage mining companies, and the urgent need for increased institutional investment to drive sector growth. Sasa also shares insights on global supply chain disruptions and the rising costs of essential minerals, highlighting Canada’s positioning amid US political pressures. She discusses strategies to attract both retail and institutional investors and how British Columbia is working to enhance its appeal for mining investment. As the mining sector continues to navigate uncertainty, Sasa offers a forward-looking perspective on regulatory changes, capital markets, and the evolving landscape for mining projects. Whether you’re an investor, legal professional, or industry leader, this episode provides a comprehensive overview of the key trends shaping mining and resource development today. #McMillanTalks #FutureOfLaw #LIFPodcast #InnovateWithMcMillan

In this episode of The Legal Innovation Forum Podcast, we sit down with Bruce Chapple, CEO of McMillan, to explore the evolving legal landscape and the firm’s journey from a Toronto-based practice to a national presence. Bruce reflects on his career since 1995, highlighting key moments in the firm’s expansion and the strategies that have positioned McMillan as a leader in the legal industry. Throughout the conversation, Bruce shares insights on the critical role of collaboration in legal services, the importance of understanding regional business dynamics, and how a people-driven approach remains at the heart of the profession. He discusses major shifts in legal practice, including developments in finance and capital markets, the evolving expectations of general counsels, and the growing influence of AI on legal workflows. As AI and technology continue to reshape the industry, Bruce outlines McMillan’s proactive approach to innovation, from integrating business training for lawyers to leveraging generative AI to enhance efficiency and decision-making. He also provides a candid look at the challenges facing law firms and legal departments today—emphasizing the need for adaptability, strategic foresight, and a client-centric mindset. Beyond technology, Bruce explores the human side of legal practice, sharing his perspectives on leadership, firm culture, and the value of strong relationships in an increasingly complex business environment. His insights offer a roadmap for legal professionals looking to navigate change, embrace innovation, and drive long-term success. Tune in for a dynamic discussion on the future of law, leadership, and the strategies that will define the next era of legal services. #McMillanTalks #FutureOfLaw #LIFPodcast #McMillanLegalInsights

What does it take to manage legal strategy at one of the world’s most influential tech companies? In this episode of The Legal Innovation Forum Podcast, we sit down with Dennis Garcia, Assistant General Counsel at Microsoft, for an in-depth discussion on how Microsoft’s legal team aligns with the company’s broader business objectives while navigating an increasingly complex legal and regulatory landscape. Dennis shares insights into Microsoft’s operating strategy, revealing how the legal department plays a proactive role in supporting business growth, innovation, and compliance. He also delves into the critical balance between risk management and opportunity, highlighting practical approaches to addressing legal challenges in an era of rapid technological advancement. A key focus of our conversation is the role of AI and legal technology in Microsoft’s operations. As AI reshapes industries—including the legal profession—Dennis provides an inside look at how Microsoft is both developing and adopting AI responsibly while ensuring compliance with evolving regulations. From governance frameworks to real-world applications, this episode offers valuable takeaways for legal professionals looking to stay ahead of the curve. Whether you’re in-house counsel, a law firm leader, or a legal tech enthusiast, this conversation is packed with actionable insights on innovation, strategy, and the future of legal practice. Sponsored by iManage.

In this episode of The Legal Innovation Forum Podcast, we sit down with Virginia Neiswender, Associate General Counsel for Enterprise Privacy at Cox Enterprises, to explore the evolving landscape of privacy, data governance, and the role of lawyers in driving innovation. Virginia shares her fascinating career journey—from her early days as an employee benefits and bankruptcy lawyer to her transition into privacy and cybersecurity. She delves into how she was initially brought on to define Cox’s privacy program for employee data but soon found herself leading broader data governance and cybersecurity initiatives. Today, she oversees privacy efforts across Cox Communications, Cox Automotive, and other business units, shaping the company’s approach to managing data responsibly. We also discuss how Cox has built a scalable privacy and security governance framework designed to adapt to the diverse needs of its business lines. Virginia emphasizes the importance of not just harmonizing policies but creating flexible programs that evolve alongside regulatory and enforcement changes. Her team plays a proactive role in embedding privacy and security considerations into new business initiatives, ensuring compliance without stifling innovation. Beyond governance, Virginia reflects on the unique role lawyers play in fostering innovation. She explains how legal professionals contribute to the creative process by challenging assumptions, structuring risk assessments, and identifying opportunities that might otherwise be overlooked. A strong sense of curiosity, she notes, is essential for lawyers who want to remain relevant in fast-evolving industries. The conversation also touches on the intersection of privacy, data governance, and artificial intelligence. With the exponential growth of data, organizations must prioritize data hygiene and governance, and Cox’s legal team is at the forefront of guiding AI adoption—both for internal efficiencies and customer-facing applications. Virginia highlights the rapidly shifting regulatory landscape, including the increasing complexity of state-level privacy laws and the need for scalable, risk-based compliance strategies. Looking ahead, Virginia anticipates greater consolidation of state privacy laws, leading to more coordinated multi-state enforcement actions. Her advice to aspiring legal professionals? Embrace failure as a learning opportunity and cultivate curiosity as a superpower. Tune in for an insightful discussion on privacy, innovation, and the future of legal leadership in an increasingly data-driven world.

In this engaging episode, we sit down with Heather Ancrum, Deputy General Counsel at the Atlanta Housing Authority (AHA), to delve into her impactful career and the critical role she plays in advancing the organization’s mission. As the largest housing authority in Georgia and one of the largest in the United States, AHA is committed to addressing affordable housing challenges, and Heather’s legal leadership is central to supporting its strategic goals. Heather begins by sharing her professional journey, highlighting what led her to an in-house role and ultimately to AHA. She reflects on the pivotal moments in her career that prepared her to take on a leadership position in an organization with such a vital mission. We then dive into the role of the legal department in supporting AHA’s objectives, including its ambitious goal of delivering 10,000 affordable housing units while fostering thriving communities. Heather discusses how her team works to negotiate contracts, build partnerships with nonprofits, and create holistic solutions that go beyond housing, such as access to healthy foods and essential services through organizations like United Way. She emphasizes how a thoughtful, strategic approach to collaboration amplifies AHA’s positive impact on individuals and families across Atlanta. Heather also shares insights into some of the trends and challenges shaping her work, from navigating evolving regulations to managing resources in a dynamic environment. She highlights the opportunities for legal departments to step into strategic roles, helping organizations remain mission-focused while addressing broader social and economic issues. The conversation shifts to legal operations, where Heather discusses her efforts to streamline processes, implement new software, and establish clear contract operating procedures. She illustrates how these initiatives are driving efficiency and creating measurable value within her department. Finally, Heather reflects on her approach to hiring and retaining top talent, sharing how she fosters a culture of innovation and purpose within her team. From mentoring junior staff to encouraging creativity in problem-solving, Heather provides actionable advice for building and sustaining a strong, forward-thinking legal department. Whether you’re interested in affordable housing, the intersection of law and social impact, or the strategies that make legal departments thrive, this episode is packed with valuable insights and takeaways.

In this compelling episode, we sit down with Anthony Ruffolo, AVP, Shared Services, General Counsel, and Corporate Secretary at Honda Canada, to explore his remarkable journey and the pivotal role he plays in shaping the company’s legal and operational strategy. Anthony takes us through his career path, from his early aspirations to his evolution as a leader in the in-house legal world. Did he always see himself working in-house? How has his role transformed over the years, and what lessons has he learned along the way? We dive deep into Honda Canada’s current operating strategy and the innovative steps Anthony’s team is taking to align with business goals and enhance the company’s competitive edge. With Honda Canada recently committing $15 billion to electric vehicle production—including the construction of four new manufacturing plants—we uncover how the legal department is driving this expansion forward, supporting the company’s transition to EVs and advancing the future of sustainable mobility in North America. Anthony also shares his insights into the challenges, risks, and opportunities shaping the legal landscape in 2024, along with his strategies for navigating this dynamic environment. Plus, we discuss his approach to hiring, retaining top talent, and fostering a culture of innovation within his team. Whether you’re intrigued by the intersection of law, leadership, and cutting-edge technology or curious about the inner workings of one of the world’s most iconic automakers, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.

In this episode of Leading at the Intersection of Business and Law, we’re honored to welcome Dr. Ian Holloway, Professor of Law at the University of Calgary. Known for his innovative approach to legal education, Dr. Holloway shares the journey that led him to academia and gives us an inside look at the cutting-edge curriculum he designed to equip the next generation of lawyers with the skills they need in today’s fast-changing world. Join us as we dive into Canada’s urgent access-to-justice crisis, exploring how legal education and the profession can adapt to address it. Dr. Holloway also discusses the unique role that lawyers can play in helping society and businesses navigate a world fraught with risk and rapid change. From understanding complex regulatory landscapes to empowering communities, Dr. Holloway highlights how the legal field can be a force for meaningful social impact. Whether you’re a legal professional, student, or simply passionate about justice, this episode is a must-listen. Discover how one visionary leader is reshaping legal education and inspiring lawyers to lead in ways that support both business and society. Stay tuned for more conversations that illuminate the evolving role of law at the intersection of innovation and impact!

In this episode of Leading at the Intersection of Business and Law, we’re thrilled to welcome David Curran, Co-Chair of the Sustainability and ESG Advisory Practice and Executive Director of the ESG and Law Institute at Paul Weiss. David brings a wealth of expertise to the conversation as he breaks down the business case for Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) initiatives and explains why these factors are critical to long-term business success. Tune in as David shares his insights on the growing role of lawyers in navigating complex ESG challenges, from regulatory compliance to reputational risks. He discusses how legal professionals are uniquely positioned to guide organizations through the intricacies of sustainability strategies and ESG frameworks, helping businesses not only meet stakeholder expectations but also thrive in an increasingly conscious marketplace. Whether you’re a lawyer, business leader, or ESG enthusiast, this episode offers a deep dive into the intersection of law, business strategy, and sustainability. Don’t miss this engaging discussion packed with actionable insights and forward-thinking perspectives on how ESG is reshaping the future of business and the legal profession. Stay tuned for more episodes as we continue to explore the evolving role of legal leaders in today’s fast-changing world!

In this episode of Leading at the Intersection of Business and Law, we are excited to host Ray Brescia, Associate Dean for Research and Intellectual Life at Albany Law School. Ray brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the conversation as he takes us through his remarkable career journey and shares insights from his latest book, Lawyer Nation: The Past, Present, and Future of the American Legal Profession. Join us as Ray delves into the evolution of the legal profession in America, exploring the challenges and opportunities that have shaped the industry over the years. From the changing dynamics of legal education to the impact of technology and globalization on law practice, Ray’s perspectives offer a thought-provoking look at where the profession is headed. He also touches on the critical role of lawyers in shaping social justice movements and how today’s legal leaders can drive meaningful change in society. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of law, the role of lawyers in societal transformation, and the forces that will shape the next generation of legal professionals. Ray’s deep knowledge and passion for the legal field promise to leave you inspired and informed. Don’t miss this compelling discussion, and stay tuned for more episodes where we continue to explore the intersection of law, leadership, and innovation!

In this episode of The Legal Innovation Forum Podcast, we are thrilled to welcome David Luther, General counsel and corporate secretary at Workplace Safety & Insurance Board (WSIB) Ontario. Known for his transformative leadership and forward-thinking approach, David shares his inspiring career journey, including his time at WorkSafeNB and his recent transition to WSIB Ontario. Tune in as David discusses his vision for fostering a culture of innovation within the legal department at WSIB. From driving operational excellence to embracing new technologies, David is redefining what it means to lead in the legal field. His insights on balancing risk management with creative problem-solving offer a fresh perspective on how legal departments can support broader business goals while staying ahead in an ever-evolving regulatory landscape. Whether you’re a legal professional or a business leader curious about the future of workplace safety, this episode is packed with thought-provoking insights and practical takeaways. Don’t miss this engaging conversation as David Luther sheds light on his goals for transforming the legal function at one of Ontario’s key public agencies. Stay tuned for more episodes where we continue to explore the vital intersection of law, leadership, and innovation!

We continue our journey through the cutting edge of legal innovation by diving into a conversation with Andrea Wood, Chief Legal Officer at TELUS. Andrea takes us behind the scenes of her evolving role at one of Canada’s largest telecommunications companies, where she is not only navigating the legal complexities of a rapidly expanding industry but also aligning her team to drive TELUS’s ambitious strategic goals. Join us as Andrea reveals the leadership strategies that are propelling her legal team to the forefront of business innovation. From championing digital transformation to ensuring the legal function is a key player in TELUS’s growth, Andrea’s insights provide a masterclass in modern legal leadership. In this episode, you’ll learn how she’s rethinking the traditional boundaries of the legal department, fostering a culture of collaboration, and leveraging cutting-edge technologies to stay ahead in an ever-evolving market. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of law, technology, and business strategy. Whether you’re a legal professional looking to adapt to the future or a business leader eager to understand the legal landscape’s role in your organization’s success, Andrea’s perspective will leave you inspired and informed. Don’t miss out on this powerful discussion that showcases how legal leaders are not just responding to change but are actively shaping the future of their industries. GET YOUR CREDITS HERE: https://form.jotform.com/241930973892872 Law Society of BC: This episode is accredited for 30 minutes of CPD Law Society of Ontario: This episode contains 30 minutes of Professionalism Content