Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents

Welcome to The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents , your go-to podcast for insights, tips, and inspiration in the world of estate agency. Join us as we interview industry experts, successful estate agents, and thought leaders who share their experiences, strategies, and innovative ideas. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting out, our episodes are packed with valuable content designed to help you elevate your skills and enhance your services. Tune in to discover practical advice and fresh perspectives that will empower you to become a top-performing estate agent and take your agency to the next level. Subscribe now and start your journey towards excellence in estate agency! #EstateAgency #RealEstate #Podcast #IndustryInsights #ProfessionalGrowth

Resilience, Reinvention & Ridiculously Smart Property Moves, with Aarti Patel

Aarti Patel isn’t just impressive. She’s one of those rare people who walk into your world and remind you what’s actually possible.  Her property journey didn’t begin with fanfare. It began with a disaster. The kind of disaster that sends most people off to lick their wounds and mutter “never again.” Aarti did the opposite. She treated it like tuition. Learned the lessons. Then used those lessons as rocket fuel.  Today she’s a force of nature — a developer, the mind behind Aarti Auctions, a marketer, a founder many times over, and someone who understands how to carve out a niche so sharp it could take your finger off. She’s used social media to generate opportunity most agents dream about. She’s built partnerships. She’s created momentum from thin air. And she’s done it all with integrity, optimism and a ridiculous level of resilience.  Her story is one of reinvention, bravery, and backing yourself even when the evidence isn’t exactly cheering you on. If you want inspiration, you’ll get it. If you want practical insight, you’ll get that too. But above all, you’ll hear from someone who proves — emphatically — that a “Life by Design” isn’t a slogan. It’s a decision.  A cracking listen.

12-18
37:25

The Compliance Horror Story Every Estate Agent Needs to Hear

Estate agents love the thrill of the chase. Listings, negotiations, deals — that’s the fun bit.Compliance? That’s the part that keeps everyone awake at night. In this episode, Amy Shields, former estate agent turned Smart Compliance powerhouse, pulls back the curtain on the side of agency most people avoid until it’s too late. From AML pitfalls to the fines agents don’t believe they’ll ever get, to the uncomfortable truth that yes, prison is technically on the table… this conversation is a masterclass in what every agent should know but most never learn. Amy’s journey from frontline agency to compliance expert is surprisingly relatable, surprisingly human, and occasionally absolutely terrifying. This episode should probably have been released on Halloween; the jump scares are real, and the consequences even more so. If you’ve ever thought, “I’ll deal with compliance later,” listen to this before “later” becomes a very expensive word.

12-11
39:28

Stop Playing at It: Alex Pelosi-Buchanan on Building a Proper Agency

Alex Pelosi-Buchanan is one of those leaders who doesn’t hide behind buzzwords or corporate gloss. He’s honest, sharp, commercially switched on and absolutely obsessed with doing agency properly — no shortcuts, no fluff, no ego. In this episode, Alex takes us behind the curtain of what it really takes to build momentum in today’s market. We dig into leadership, culture, standards, growth, accountability, and the uncomfortable truths most agents avoid because they’re easier not to talk about. Alex tackles all of it head-on. This is the kind of conversation estate agents should be having more often — practical, grounded, and full of “why aren’t we all doing this?” moments. Whether you’re running a single branch, growing a team, or scaling a brokerage, there’s a stack of insight in here that will sharpen your thinking and challenge you in the best way. Alex is sharp, fair, and frighteningly clear-headed. You’ll finish this episode with a stronger sense of what good looks like and how to actually build it.

12-04
50:36

The Broker Blueprint: Jack Durkin on Building Better, Not Bigger

Jack Durkin didn’t just launch a self-employed brokerage… he built a model that actually works. In a world where every man and his dog is suddenly a “broker,” Jack and his team at The Avenue are quietly rewriting the rules of what a high-quality, high-fee, hyper-local agency can look like. In this conversation, Jack opens the bonnet and gets right into the engine of the modern brokerage movement — where it works, why it fails, and what agents consistently get wrong. We talk Purplebricks (the good, the bad, and the burnout) , the “day one panic,” why consistency beats cleverness, and how a single great instruction can feed you for months. Jack explains the Avenue’s obsession with quality over quantity, why saying no is a superpower, how to set standards without becoming a dictator, and why the future belongs to agents who go small, hyper-local, and specialist. We also dive into the realities behind onboarding, culture, recruitment filters, and what it really takes to help an agent build a six-figure (and maybe one-day seven-figure) business without losing their sanity in the process. If you’re running a brokerage, thinking about starting one, or wondering how on earth to stand out in a crowded self-employed marketplace… this episode will give you a ton to chew on.

11-27
40:22

Marketing That Actually Works: Kirsty Franks on Cutting the Crap in Estate Agency

Kirsty Franks doesn’t just “do marketing.” She dissects it. Rebuilds it. And then plugs it directly into the bloodstream of an estate agency so it actually drives revenue, not just noise. As Founder and CEO of Frank Marketing, she’s spent years helping estate agents and property professionals grow market share, sharpen their message, and turn half-baked ideas into campaigns that actually land. Strategy first. Creativity second. Results always. In this episode we get properly under the bonnet of estate agency marketing. What works. What doesn’t. What agents think matters but really doesn’t. And what they ignore at their peril. Kirsty brings straight-talking insight, loads of experience, and more common sense than most “gurus” put together. I probably am a bit biased — she’s annoyingly brilliant — but listen anyway. You’ll come away with a bucketful of ideas and a much clearer view of what great marketing should look like in our industry.

11-20
43:12

Creating a Life You Love – The Garrett Maroon Way

This week I chat with Garrett Maroon — an agent, coach and all-round good guy from Virginia who built his business the hard way… then figured out how to do it the smart way. After burning out working 100-hour weeks, Garrett rebuilt his business around one simple principle: success isn’t about doing more, it’s about doing it better. He now generates all his leads through referrals and has created a business that serves his life — not the other way round. We talk about how he made that shift, the systems that drive his referrals, and what UK agents can learn from the US brokerage model as it continues to gather pace over here. It’s an honest and practical conversation packed with ideas you can put into play straight away.

11-13
53:43

Chris Webb: The Moment Everything Changed

This week I chat with Chris Webb — founder of The Estate Agent Consultancy and one of the sharpest minds in our industry. Chris is known for driving growth for small and solo estate agencies. But this conversation goes beyond the polished professional image. Chris lets his guard down and shares the story behind the career; the experiences that shaped him, the mistakes that taught him, and the insights that every ambitious agent can learn from. With over 20 years in the business, he’s seen it all, done most of it, and now helps others grow smarter, faster, and stronger. If you’ve ever wondered what really goes on behind the calm exterior of a true professional, this one’s for you.

11-06
46:17

How to Build a Brokerage That Actually Works – with Yopa’s Tom Greenacre

Tom Greenacre has done what many talk about but few pull off — built a thriving brokerage from scratch under the Yopa umbrella. From his early days at Countrywide to the chaos and colour of Purplebricks, Tom’s seen every version of estate agency. In this episode, we unpack how he’s created a business within a business — the highs, the mistakes, and the reality behind the glossy LinkedIn posts. We also tackle the uncomfortable truth about why so many brokers fail, and what separates the ones who last from the ones who vanish. If you’re thinking about going self-employed or creating your own brokerage model, listen to this before you jump. It’s honest, practical and might just change how you see the game.

10-30
43:58

Charlie Lamdin: The Reluctant Know-It-All and His Fight to Fix Estate Agency

Charlie Lamdin is one of the industry’s most outspoken outsiders — a man who’s never sold a house, yet has spent 25 years studying the people who do. Founder of BestAgent, self-taught “wannabe world-changer,” and serial survivor of business bruises, Charlie’s mission is bold: to tear down the barriers that keep agency unfair and rebuild it around trust, transparency, and process. In this episode, we dig into his philosophy of “talk process, not price,” why he thinks the industry’s obsession with competition is killing service, and how failure and frustration shaped his determination to change it. Whether you agree with him or not, Charlie will make you think differently about what estate agency could be.

10-23
39:35

From Drummer to Deal Maker: Brian’s Journey, the Wolfpack, and What the US Can Teach the UK

In this episode of The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents, Rob Graves sits down with Brian Quick, an eXp agent from the US and a key member of The Wolfpack — a 3,500-strong network of high-performing brokers. Brian’s journey from touring drummer to top-producing agent began after a major health scare that completely shifted his outlook on life and business. The conversation dives deep into the differences and striking similarities between the US and UK property markets, exploring how technology, culture, and agent collaboration are evolving on both sides of the Atlantic. Expect insight, inspiration, and a few “aha” moments that reveal what the UK agency world can learn from its American cousins — and how the future of estate agency might already be playing out across the pond.

10-16
52:19

From TV Screens to Dream Homes – Behind the Scenes with “A Place in the Sun” Creators

This week on The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents, I sit down with Jean-Pierre and his husband Manuel—the creative duo behind Channel 4’s hit property series A Place in the Sun. They share what it was really like to bring one of the UK’s most-loved property shows to life, lifting the curtain on the challenges, surprises, and stories from behind the camera. But their journey didn’t stop there. Today, they run Maison Hunt, a bespoke property-finding service helping clients navigate London’s rental and buying markets with care, clarity, and results. From scouting homes across Europe for TV to guiding international relocations into the heart of London, Jean-Pierre’s career has always been about more than bricks and mortar—it’s about matching people with places that truly feel like home. Expect insights into the making of property television, the evolution into high-level property search, and what it takes to turn vision into reality for clients in one of the world’s most competitive housing markets.

10-09
58:37

AI Won’t Replace Agents—But It Will Create Super Agents

This week on The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents I sit down with Morgan Edmondson of Nesti, the London-based startup building one of the most advanced AI platforms for estate and letting agents. Morgan gives us a clear-eyed look at what AI can really do for estate agency today—and where it’s heading tomorrow. This isn’t about robots taking jobs. It’s about the smartest agents using AI as rocket fuel to become faster, sharper, and more valuable than ever. We explore why AI adoption will be a sprint, not a marathon, how smaller, agile agencies can seize an edge over slower-moving corporates, and why this moment feels like the social media revolution all over again—only accelerated. If you’ve been wondering whether AI is hype or the real deal for your agency, this episode will give you the insight you need to decide whether you’ll be left behind—or leap ahead.

10-02
55:46

The Gary Vee of UK Estate Agency: David Adams on Landlords, Legacy & Lettings

This week I sit down with David Adams — property expert, landlord coach, best-selling author, and the driving force behind Cavendish Sales & Lettings. David has transformed a family business into a modern, value-driven agency. He gets what many miss: property management is the beating heart of cash flow and long-term business value. In our conversation, we explore how he’s using multi-generational influence — from books and webinars to podcasts and social media — to build trust and attract landlords with serious lifetime value. He shares why giving away knowledge is the best calling card, how webinars have become his number one client collection tool, and why he thinks like a coach, not just an agent. There’s a reason I call him the Gary Vee of UK estate agency — he understands the power of giving first, building assets that compound, and using content to create connections that last. Packed with ideas any agent can borrow — whether you’re focused on landlords or sellers — this is a masterclass in building assets that work every day to grow your business.

09-25
51:54

Acquisition, Attitude & Authenticity: The Naish Way with Matthew Hendry

Sometimes the best conversations don’t come from the big personalities on the industry stage but from the agents quietly getting on with building brilliant businesses. In this episode I sit down with Matthew Hendry, owner of Naish Estate Agents in York, who acquired the business just two years ago and has already steered it through a rebrand, renovation, and a rebuild of his team. We cover:  Why acquisition is a forgotten but powerful way to start or grow an agency  How Matthew approaches pricing with clarity and conviction  The fee structure that serves both clients and the business  Building a team that shares his values and beliefs  Why his focus is on profitablegrowth, not just getting bigger Matthew’s approach is refreshingly clear: do things really well, and growth will follow. With over £130m of York property already entrusted to Naish, it’s working. If you want to hear from someone who proves that estate agency doesn’t have to be about noise or scale—but about substance—this episode is for you.

09-18
45:51

AI is changing estate agency faster than Rightmove ever did.

In this episode I sit down with Apostolos Aktypis—the man building AI-powered client acquisition systems for estate agents, B2B, and service brands. His work sits right where AI, paid media, and revenue engineering collide, and his mission is simple: to move the bottom line with substance, not hype. When we recorded this conversation just eight weeks ago, the tools were impressive. Since then, they’ve leapt forward again. That’s how fast the landscape is shifting. After forty years in agency, I can say this with confidence: AI is the most important development our industry has ever faced. And if you’re only using it to write property details or tidy up emails, you’re barely scratching the surface. This episode will show you why AI matters, how to think beyond gimmicks, and how to start building systems that give you a real business advantage.

09-11
43:01

Beyond Cheap Labour: Outsourcing Myths and the Power of Onboarding.

In this week’s episode I sit down with Deep Shah to challenge a big misconception: outsourcing isn’t about cutting costs—it’s about raising the quality of your team. Deep shares sharp insights on how recruitment and onboarding can make or break a business. Too often, we blame new starters when the real issue is a lack of process. Without the right systems and procedures, even the best people will stumble. We dig into why onboarding is one of the most underestimated parts of business growth, and how getting it right can transform both performance and culture. If you’ve ever wondered why some hires thrive while others fail, this conversation will change the way you think about recruitment forever.  

09-04
01:04:37

Dubai Real Estate Reality Check: Mitch’s Rolex Dream and Market Challenges

In this episode of The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents, I reconnect with Mitch in Dubai to see how his real estate journey is unfolding — and whether he’s any closer to that elusive Rolex goal. Since our last conversation (one of the most popular episodes we’ve ever released), the Dubai property market has toughened, and wider global uncertainty has added to the challenges — including the tense backdrop of US–Iran relations at the time of recording. Yet, what’s striking is how familiar many of these obstacles feel, no matter where in the world you’re selling property. From client expectations to shifting market dynamics, the themes remain universal. Join us as we dive into Mitch’s progress, the realities of working in Dubai real estate, and the lessons every estate agent can take away, wherever they are.

08-28
32:57

Beyond the Scripts: Richard Rawlings on His Story, Sales Mastery, and the Future of Agency

This week on The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents, I sit down with Richard Rawlings — one of the most respected trainers and speakers in our industry. Richard is known for helping agents secure higher fees, close more instructions, and create real distinction in their markets. He’s worked with everyone from independents to global brands, sharing practical persuasion techniques that deliver immediate results. But what you don’t often hear is Richard’s own story — his background, how he found his way into this industry, and how he became the trainer so many of us now turn to. Along the way, we talk about fees, asking for the business, closing, AI, buyer representation, and much more. It’s not just a masterclass in agency growth — it’s an insight into the journey behind the trainer.

08-21
45:33

This Week on The Utterly Indispensable Podcast for Estate Agents: Matthew Gardiner Legge

I first met Matthew back in 2008 and we recently reconnected at the eXp conference, where his energy and enthusiasm were as strong as ever. In this episode, Matthew shares his journey through agency, his unfiltered thoughts on the industry, and why he’s so passionate about eXp. He doesn’t shy away from the “cult” label in fact, he embraces it and explains what the model has done for agents not just in the UK, but around the world. Matthew’s story is full of character, grit, and a few brilliant anecdotes you won’t want to miss. He’s a one-off and he’s got a lot to say. Whether you’re eXp-curious or just in the mood for a refreshingly honest chat about the state of agency, this episode delivers.

08-14
46:49

Adam Mackay – Founder of Mackay Property & Co-Founder of The Real Agency

This week, I’m joined by Adam Mackay, one of the first agents in the UK to embrace the eXp brokerage model. From his family roots in Sawbridgeworth to launching Mackay Property and now building The Real Agency alongside Olympic legends Roger Black and Steve Backley, Adam’s story is packed with insight, bold decisions, and a clear belief in doing things differently. In this episode:  Why Adam bet on eXp before most even knew what it was  The power of honest, hyper-local agency in a templated world  How “The Real Agency” is aiming to change the game for independent agents within eXp  What traditional agents can learn from a new wave of model-first businesses Whether you’re eXp-curious or just want to hear how one agent built a standout business with heart and clarity, this one’s worth your time.

08-07
43:22

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