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What Gets Measured
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What Gets Measured is a NinjaCat podcast about marketing performance management, data, and analysis, featuring candid conversations and interviews with insightful guests and informative experts. 
Hosted and produced by Jake Sanders, this bi-weekly podcast provides marketers with applicable anecdotes and topical takeaways to better manage their performance marketing because; "what gets measured, gets managed."
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© 2022, NinjaCat
Hosted and produced by Jake Sanders, this bi-weekly podcast provides marketers with applicable anecdotes and topical takeaways to better manage their performance marketing because; "what gets measured, gets managed."
SHOWPAGE - https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/marketing-performance-management-podcast
© 2022, NinjaCat
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Copywriter-turned–AI ethics educator Felicity Wild breaks down what marketing teams risk when they automate without oversight—and how ethics can drive better, smarter decisions. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-nobody-cares-about-ai-ethics  © 2025, NinjaCat 
Marketers live in the gray area of measurement — especially in social media. In this episode, Emeric Ernoult, CEO and co-founder of Agorapulse, shares his hard-earned insights on proving the real value of social. Discover why social isn't just a trend, how to balance brand awareness with demand generation, and why vanity metrics are signals, not goals. Emeric also dives into how AI can multiply your efforts (for better or worse), and what it really takes to create memorable content that drives lasting ROI. 🎧 Actionable takeaways:   Treat engagement as feedback, not a scoreboard   Run campaigns that drive both awareness and demand   Let AI handle the busywork, so you can focus on strategy   At the end of the day, the brands people remember are the ones that win.  SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-cracking-the-code-on-social-media-roi    © 2025, NinjaCat 
Dive into clean data and aligned teams in martech, AI that actually works, and learn what's driving marketing ops success right now with Darrell Alfonso.   SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-ai-in-marketing-ops-scary-exciting-essential    © 2025, NinjaCat
AI fails without context. Vanessa Liu explains why capturing human know-how is the key to scaling automation, reducing turnover costs, and driving ROI. SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-smarter-ai-starts-with-human-know-how    ©2025, NinjaCat
Learn why data storytelling for marketing is critical for success. Scott Taylor, 'the Data Whisperer,' explains how to communicate data insights that drive business decisions. SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-truth-before-meaning-data-storytelling-ai 
Charlie de Thibault calls out marketing's obsession with bottom-funnel metrics, explains why attribution is hurting more than it helps, and shares how to actually prove value across teams. SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-fixing-the-disconnect-between-brand-demand-and-dollars    © 2025, NinjaCat
Colt Briner, CMO at Trend Health Partners, shares how AI agents helped his lean marketing team outperform departments six times their size—without sacrificing voice, insight, or authenticity.  SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-a-new-mindset-for-ai-augmented-marketing    © 2025, NinjaCat
Discover how causal AI transforms marketing analytics by solving the correlation vs. causation dilemma. Learn why outdated Marketing Mix Modeling (MMM) can't keep up, and how causal AI provides actionable, real-time insights for CMOs and CFOs. SHOWPAGE:   https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-make-better-bets-with-causal-ai    © 2025, NinjaCat
Most martech stacks don't break—they bloat. In this interview, Ana Mourão shares how to untangle messy stacks with clear thinking, smart experiments, and data strategies that actually serve people.  SHOWPAGE:  https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-better-martech-starts-with-better-experiments 
Marketers optimize everything—except the link. In this episode, Scott Cate of 301.Pro explains how dynamic, rules-based URLs can unlock smarter, more contextual ad performance at scale.  SHOWPAGE:  https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-from-static-to-dynamic-how-better-links-create-smarter-ads    © 2025, NinjaCat
NinjaCat VP of Marketing Jessica Graeser shares how AI is transforming agency workflows, why 2025 is a breakout year for operational efficiency, and how to go from endless AI pilots to real pipeline results.   SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-why-ai-will-be-an-amplifier-not-a-replacement    © 2025, NinjaCat
AI strategist James Ward breaks down why most marketing strategies fail—and how his Five Rings framework and causal AI can help agencies think, measure, and perform more effectively. SHOWPAGE:  https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-rethinking-marketing-strategy-with-causal-ai    © 2025, NinjaCat 
Marketing strategist Ondar Tarlow shares how clean data, shared definitions, and AI help brands drive performance, build partnerships, and act fast.  SHOWPAGE:  https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-leveraging-data-in-marketing    © 2025, NinjaCat
CEO of Third Door Media, Marc Sirkin, unpacks the AI-driven shift in marketing, the chaos of data, and why transformation takes more than tech. From one-to-one dreams to LLM-powered SEO, this episode cuts through the hype to reveal what really matters in the future of digital marketing. SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-whats-next-for-digital-marketing    © 2025, NinjaCat
Explore the frontiers of a new way to envision online commerce as Peter Cranstone combines his skills in patents, programming, and data to describe the promising potential, and current pitfalls, of the ecosystem centered marketing strategy of the future.  SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-the-ecosystem-centered-marketing-strategy  © 2025, NinjaCat 
How can businesses achieve measurable success with AI? Ken Gavranovic unpacks strategic insights and concrete steps you can take today to unlock AI's full potential, avoid common adoption mistakes, and see immediate, real-world impact. SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-how-to-achieve-measurable-success-with-ai © 2025, NinjaCat
Jason Patterson breaks down content marketing strategy, essential metrics, and the role of AI in driving real business impact. Learn how to avoid vanity metrics traps and create content that converts.  SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-measuring-success-in-content-marketing    © 2025, NinjaCat
Find out how AI is transforming marketing with expert insights from Mike Kaput, of Marketing AI Institute. Learn about AI agents, deep research tools, and practical strategies to future-proof your agency.   SHOWPAGE:  https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-rethinking-ai-for-smarter-marketing    © 2025, NinjaCat
Learn how agencies can properly prepare for and thrive with AI in this interview with Ben Etherington, who brings insights on AI readiness, overcoming adoption challenges, and unlocking ROI through people, processes, and technology alignment.  SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-getting-your-data-ai-ready    © 2025, NinjaCat 
Join Susan Walsh, the Classification Guru, as she defines dirty data, describes how to organize and normalize it, and details the data cleaning process so you can straighten up your spreadsheets and boost ROI.   SHOWPAGE:  www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-data-cleaning-fix-dirty-data-and-boost-roi    © 2025, NinjaCat






