Wohoo, hey ya’ll, Alex here,

I'm back from the desert (pic at the end) and what a great feeling it is to be back in the studio to talk about everything that happened in AI!

It's been a pretty full week (or two) in AI, with Coding agent space heating up, Grok entering the ring and taking over free tokens, Codex 10xing usage and Anthropic... well, we'll get to Anthropic.

Today on the show we had Roger and Bhavesh from Nous Research cover the awesome Hermes 4 release and the new PokerBots benchmark, then we had a returning favorite, Kwindla Hultman Kramer, to talk about the GA of RealTime voice from OpenAI.

Plus we got some massive funding news, some drama with model quality on Claude Code, and some very exciting news right here from CoreWeave aquiring OpenPipe! 👏 So grab your beverage of choice, settle in (or skip to the part that interests you) and let's take a look at the last week (or two) in AI!

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Open Source: Soulful Models and Poker-Playing Agents

This week did not disappoint as it comes to Open Source! Our friends at Nous Research released the 14B version of Hermes 4, after releasing the 405B and 70B versions last week. This company continues to excel in finetuning models for powerful, and sometimes just plain weird (in a good way) usecases.

Nous Hermes 4 (14B, 70B, 405B) and the Quest for a "Model Soul" (X, HF)

Roger and Bhavash from Nous came to announce the release of the smaller (14B) version of Hermes 4, and cover the last weeks releases of the larger 70B and 405B brothers. Hermes series of finetunes was always on our radar, as unique data mixes turned them into uncensored, valuable and creative models and unlocked a bunch of new use-cases.

But the wildest part? They told us they intentionally stopped training the model not when reasoning benchmarks plateaued, but when they felt it started to "lose its model soul." They monitor the entropy and chaos in the model's chain-of-thought, and when it became too sterile and predictable, they hit the brakes to preserve that creative spark. This focus on qualities beyond raw benchmark scores is why Hermes 4 is showing some really interesting generalization, performing exceptionally well on benchmarks like EQBench3, which tests emotional and interpersonal understanding. It's a model that's primed for RL not just in math and code, but in creative writing, role-play, and deeper, more "awaken" conversations. It’s a soulful model that's just fun to talk to.

Nous Husky Hold'em Bench: Can Your LLM Win at Poker? (Bench)

As if a soulful model wasn't enough, the Nous team also dropped one of the most creative new evals I've seen in a while: Husky Hold'em Bench. We had Bhavesh, one of its creators, join the show to explain. This isn't a benchmark where the LLM plays poker directly. Instead, the LLM has to write a Python poker botfrom scratch, under time and memory constraints, which then competes against bots written by other LLMs in a high-stakes tournament. Very interesting approach, and we love creative benchmarking here at ThursdAI!

This is a brilliant way to test for true strategic reasoning and planning, not just pattern matching. It's an "evergreen" benchmark that gets harder as the models get better. Early results are fascinating: Claude 4 Sonnet and Opus are currently leading the pack, but Hermes 4 is the top open-source model.

More Open Source Goodness

The hits just kept on coming this week. Tencent open-sourced Hunyuan-MT-7B, a translation model that swept the WMT2025 competition and rivals GPT-4.1 on some benchmarks. Having a small, powerful, specialized model like this is huge for anyone doing large-scale data translation for training or needing fast on-device capabilities.

From Switzerland, we got Apertus-8B and 70B, a set of fully open (Apache 2.0 license, open data, open training recipes!) multilingual models trained on a massive 15 trillion tokens across 1,800 languages. It’s fantastic to see this level of transparency and contribution from European institutions.

And Alibaba’s Tongyi Lab released WebWatcher, a powerful multimodal research agent that can plan steps, use a suite of tools (web search, OCR, code interpreter), and is setting new state-of-the-art results on tough visual-language benchmarks, often beating models like GPT-4o and Gemini.

All links are in the TL;DR at the end

BREAKING NEWS: Google Drops Embedding Gemma 308M (X, HF, Try It)

Just as we were live on the show, news broke from our friends at Google. They've released Embedding Gemma, a new family of open-source embedding models. This is a big deal because they are tiny—the smallest is only 300M parameters and takes just 200MB to run—but they are topping the MTEB leaderboard for models under 500M parameters. For anyone building RAG pipelines, especially for on-device or mobile-first applications, having a small, fast, SOTA embedding model like this is a game-changer.

It's so optimized for on device running that it can run fully in your browser on WebGPU, with this great example from our friend Xenova highlighted on the release blog!

Big Companies, Big Money, and Big Problems

It was a rollercoaster week for the big labs, with massive fundraising, major product releases, and a bit of a reality check on the reliability of their services.

OpenAI's GPT Real-Time Goes GA and gets an upgraded brain (X, Docs)

We had the perfect guest to break down OpenAI's latest voice offering: Kwindla Kramer, founder of Daily and maintainer of the open-source PipeCat framework. OpenAI has officially taken its Realtime API to General Availability (GA), centered around the new gpt-realtime model.

Kwindla explained that this is a true speech-to-speech model, not a pipeline of separate speech-to-text, LLM, and text-to-speech models. This reduces latency and preserves more nuance and prosody. The GA release comes with huge upgrades, including support for remote MCP servers, the ability to process image inputs during a conversation, and—critically for enterprise—native SIP integration for connecting directly to phone systems.

However, Kwindla also gave us a dose of reality. While this is the future, for many high-stakes enterprise use cases, the multi-model pipeline approach is still more reliable. Observability is a major issue with the single-model black box; it's hard to know exactly what the model "heard." And in terms of raw instruction-following and accuracy, a specialized pipeline can still outperform the speech-to-speech model. It’s a classic jagged frontier: for the lowest latency and most natural vibe, GPT Real-Time is amazing. For mission-critical reliability, the old way might still be the right way for now.

ChatGpt has branching!

Just as I was about to finish writing this up, ChatGPT announced a new feature, and this one I had to tell you about! Finally you can branch chats in their interface, which is a highly requested feature!

Branching seems to be live on the chat interface, and honestly, tiny but important UI changes like these are how OpenAI remains the best chat experience!

The Money Printer Goes Brrrr: Anthropic's $13B Raise

Let's talk about the money. Anthropic announced it has raised an absolutely staggering $13 billion in a Series F round, valuing the company at $183 billion. Their revenue growth is just off the charts, jumping from a run rate of around $1 billion at the start of the year to over $5 billion by August. This growth is heavily driven by enterprise adoption and the massive success of Claude Code. It's clear that the AI gold rush is far from over, and investors are betting big on the major players. In related news, OpenAI is also reportedly raising $10 billion at a valuation of around $500 billion, primarily to allow employees to sell shares—a huge moment for the folks who have been building there for years.

Oops... Did We Nerf Your AI? Anthropic's Apology

While Anthropic was celebrating its fundraise, it was also dealing with a self-inflicted wound. After days of users on X and other forums complaining that Claude Opus felt "dumber," the company finally issued a statement admitting that yes, for about three days, the model's quality was degraded due to a change in their infrastructure stack.

Honestly, this is not okay. We're at a point where hundreds of th