In the newest episode of The Group Dynamics Dispatch, Angelo talks with Dr. Robert Pepper about his new book ‘Some People Don’t Want What They Say They Want - 100 Unconventional Interventions In Group Therapy.’ This engaging hour is filled with rich stories from Dr. Pepper’s 40 year career as well as exploratory dives into themes of working with ambivalence, aggression, guilt, and the ethical needs of a secure frame for both the leader and the members.