Lisa Townsend is the elected Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) for the Conservative Party in Surrey. In this interview, we discuss openly about the failure of prohibition, the politicisation of policing & growing crime.

We discuss:
– Crime, police priorities & why frontline officers are demoralised
– Drugs, gangs & the rise of middle-class shoplifting
– Whether prohibition has failed & what to do about it
– Policing vs mental health vs social work: who’s doing what?
– State bloat & NHS reform
– The case for decentralisation, taxpayer control & back-to-basics policing

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 – Intro  
00:04:45 – Public Safety  
00:10:20 – PCCs vs Politicised Policing  
00:15:30 – What the PCC Role Does  
00:18:49 – The Real Job of Oversight    
00:28:10 – Who Should Enter Politics?  
00:32:00 – Can We Still Afford the State?  
00:36:30 – Crime, Cost & Council Collapse
00:46:30 – Who Really Sets Police Priorities?    
00:56:00 – The Shoplifting Spiral  
01:01:30 – Middle-Class Theft Surge  
01:06:30 – The Cocaine Hypocrisy  
01:10:45 – Policing's Hidden Frontlines  
01:16:00 – Has Prohibition Failed?  
01:21:00 – Drugs, Markets & Legalisation    
01:32:45 – What Should the State Do?    
01:42:00 – The Mental Health Breakdown    
01:51:00 – NHS Reform & Political Cowardice  
01:56:00 – Can the PCC Model Work?  
02:00:00 – Should PCCs Be Better Known?  
02:06:00 – What’s Wasting Police Time?  
02:08:00 – Final Thoughts

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