Dr. Steven Herrine is the chair of medical education and professor of medicine here at SKMC at Jefferson and a practicing hepatologist and gastroenterologist. He grew up in NYC and studied math and history at Oberlin College, after which he spent a few years as a chef, and then went to Jefferson medical school, Penn, for IM residency and Jefferson for GI/hepatology, where he has stayed since. He has won multiple awards for teaching, including IM residency teacher of the year, which makes sense because he now runs medical education as the chair here at SKMC. This is a scary interview for me because if I say anything bad, Dr. Herrine can of course, kick me right out of medical school with only a couple months left.

Sep 25th

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0:00 - Intro

1:17 - From Being a Chef to Doing Medicine

5:39 - What Is Hepatology?

6:12 - Why Hepatology?

9:50 - What Was Fellowship Like?

10:48 - Choosing the Kind of Practice That You Want to Do

17:46 - Best Thing About Being a Hepatologist

20:29 - Worst Thing About Being a Hepatologist

22:07 - How to Get Into Dean/Chair Positions?

24:23 - An Average Week/Day Balancing Clinic and Dean Position

27:39 - Most Surprising/Unexpected Thing About Being a Dean

29:50 - Formalities and Processes for Changing Med School Curriculum

32:03 - Main Factors in Change

33:00 - LCME Guidelines on Curriculum

35:06 - Being the Dean of Medical Education

37:21 - Lessons Learned After Being in Medical Education for 20+ Years

39:52 - Social Science & Medicine

43:48 - Deciding on Online and On-Site Classes

47:28 - Medical Education Changing Over the Years

49:57 - Differences Between Successful and Unsuccessful Students

53:25 - Medical Education During COVID-19

57:56 - Future of Your Career

59:32 - If I Give You $100 Million, What Would You Do?

1:00:57 - Advice to People Entering Medicine

1:02:36 - What Advice Would You Give Your Med Student Self?

1:03:30 - Any Mistakes That You Made Throughout Your Career?

1:05:14 - Book Recommendations

1:08:28 - Closing Message for People Looking Into Hepatology

1:08:52 - Closing Message for People Going Into Medicine

1:10:03 - Tips for Making Great Graphics for Teaching

1:11:05 - Giving a Good Experience for Students at SKMC&Jefferson

1:13:55 - Closing Message

1:15:13 - Outro

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Resources

Being There by Jerzy Kosinski: https://a.co/d/3a8BVrZ

Undaunted Courage by Stephen E. Ambrose: https://a.co/d/cS4QFdF

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