“For a lot of jobs, it’s actually a lot easier to get hired, promoted, and to continue growing in that job without the degree than you think it is. You just need to be creative.”

In this episode of Nat Chat, I’m joined by Zak Slayback. Zak dropped out of the University of Pennsylvania when he realized that college just wasn’t for him. Since then, he’s worked on business development, published his own book, become the head of publishing for an online publication called The Mission, and much more.

He’s had experience going outside of the school system, learning on your own, developing that reputation and that skill set, and getting to work with some really respected people in his field. He’s a perfect example of how you can be successful without necessarily having a college education.

We cover a wide range of topics, including:

• Flaws with receiving degrees and with the education system
• Getting great apprenticeships
• Zak’s top book recommendations
• Using self-education to your advantage
• Understanding opportunity cost and improving your success with it
• Important skills you need to develop for success
• Techniques for achieving your goals

And much more. Please enjoy, and reach out to Zak on Twitter!

If you enjoyed this episode and want more on getting apprenticeships, you’ll love my episode with Charlie Hoehn. You should also check out my episode with Ben Nelson, where we discuss major flaws in the education system and how we can improve our learning. Lastly, check out my episode with Connor Grooms, where we discuss self-education, accelerating our learning, and more.

Find Zak Online:

• Website
• Twitter
• Medium
• Amazon

Mentioned in the show:

• University of Pennsylvania [0:27 ]
• The Mission [0:43 ]
• Medium [0:43 ]
• The State Policy Network [1:47 ]
• The Big Five Personality Index [3:42 ]
• Joe Rogan Podcast [6:04 ] (episode mentioned)
• Quest Nutrition [6:04 ]
• Uber [7:05 ]
• Praxis [8:55 ]
• Grove City College [10:37 ]
• Python [15:03 ]
• Javascript [15:05 ]
• C-Suite [16:37 ]
• Thinktink [20:22 ]
• Christian Science Monitor [20:30 ]
• Duquesne University [20:40 ]
• University of Arizona [23:02 ]
• Moving From New York to Austin (What Salary Do You Actually Need?) [36:15 ]
• Georgetown University [37:10 ]
• Clarium Capital [38:30 ]
• Weebly [40:48 ]
• Audacity [41:14 ]
• Carnegie Mellon [45:10 ]
• Leverage Research [49:14 ]
• Paradigm Academy [49:15 ]
• Ambition Mapping [52:03 ] Article at [53:17 ]
• SEC [52:28 ]
• Let Me Google That For You [53:20 ]
• Get Ahead Book Site [59:10 ]
• Zak’s Podcast [59:55 ]
• Kindle [1:01:15 ]

Books mentioned:

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