It’s the consistency over a long period of time where you really start to see the breakthrough.

In this episode of Nat Chat, I’m joined by Nasos Papadopoulos. Nasos attended Oxford University, where after a while, realized that being on the path with finance and economics just wasn’t for him. He took a long break to travel and explore new opportunities, eventually getting into meta-learning and the science of learning. He started the site Metalearn.net where he educates other people on learning more effectively and efficiently. He also has a popular podcast and a course on the topic, all focused on helping people get better at learning.

Nasos is an excellent guy to learn from for those wanting to learn more effectively and efficiently, stay motivated, and getting to know their learning strengths and weaknesses.

We cover a wide range of topics, including:

• What Nasos has learned by focusing on learning how to learn
• The niche and lesser-known aspects of learning
• The fixed and growth mindsets and their impact on learning
• Figuring out your own learning strengths and weaknesses
• Applying Hebb’s Law and becoming more self and other-aware
• Overcoming the sunk cost of highly investing in the wrong area

And much more. Please enjoy, and reach out to Nasos on Twitter!

If you enjoyed this episode and our discussion on learning and self-education, be sure to check out my episode with Zak Slayback, and my episode with Connor Grooms, where we delve into these topics and more.

Find Nasos online:

• Website [0:35 ]
• MetaLearn Twitter [49:18 ]
• Nasos’ Twitter [49:20 ]

Mentioned in the show:

• Oxford University [0:15 ]
• Metalearn.net [0:35 ]
• MetaLearn podcast [0:48 ]
• Nat’s episode on the MetaLearn podcast [1:24 ]
• Italki [20:45 ]
• Make Me a MetaLearner course [24:47 ]
• Self-authoring Suite [25:44 ]
• 5-Minute Journal [30:45 ]
• Hebb’s Law [31:32 ]
• Python [32:58 ]
• Duolingo [34:23 ]
• Codecademy [34:24 ]
• Sesame Street [34:26 ]

Books mentioned:

• How Will You Measure Your Life [11:12 ]
• The 4-Hour Workweek [11:50 ]
• Intelligence and How to Get It [21:17 ]

People mentioned:

• Clayton Christensen [11:13 ]
• Tim Ferriss [11:50 ]
• Plato [12:05 ]
• Aristotle [12:06 ]
• Carol Dweck [16:53 ]
• Elon Musk [18:24 ]
• Richard Nisbett [21:15 ]
• Howard Gardner [22:49 ]
• Dr. Jordan Peterson [25:36 ]
• Scott Adams [45:32 ]

1:19 - Introduction to Nasos, him detailing his schooling experiences and time at Oxford University, and then rethinking his whole perspective on the educational system.

7:30 - How Nasos’ perspective on continuing to work in the financial field changed, after barely missing a top score on one of his finals. Also, a bit on his traveling experiences and what he did after having this huge change in perspective.

10:33 - How Nasos was paying for travel and a few of the impactful books he read shortly after leaving the financial field.

12:18 - How and when Nasos first began his company, MetaLearn.

13:32  - Some of the most important