Alexander Shunnarah, Ed Herman, and John Berry - powerhouses of traditional marketing share their insights on combining traditional and digital marketing approaches to create memorable brands and attract ideal clients.

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In today’s special episode of Personal Injury Mastermind — LIVE from PIMCON — we successful law firms are leveraging traditional marketing strategies in the modern age. We discuss:

• Managing attribution challenges in traditional marketing


• Building brand awareness vs. brand loyalty in legal services


• The importance of memorability and creating memorable content


• Developing clear brand messaging for billboards


• Tips for maintaining brand consistency across different practice areas


• Leveraging traditional marketing for community engagement

Guest Details

Alexander Shannara - Founder, Alexander Shannara Trial Attorneys

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  LinkedIn, Instagram, Website
  

Mitri Shatara - Marketing Director, Alexander Shannara Trial Attorneys

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  LinkedIn, Instagram
  

Ed Herman - Managing Partner, Brown and Crouppen

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  LinkedIn, Instagram, Website
  

Jeremy Corray - Executive Vice President, Cool Fire Studios

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  LinkedIn, Instagram, Website
  

John Berry - CEO, Berry Law

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  LinkedIn, Instagram, Website
  

Chris Dreyer and Rankings Details

Chris Dreyer is the CEO and founder of Rankings.io, the elite legal digital marketing agency. 

• Rankings: Website, Instagram, Twitter
  


• Chris Dreyer: Website, Instagram
  


• Newsletters: The Dreyer Sheet 


• Books: Personal Injury Lawyer Marketing: From Good to GOAT; Niching Up: The Narrower the Market, the Bigger the Prize
  


• Work with Rankings: Connect
  

Time Stamps

00:00 Intro

00:40 Welcome: Future of Traditional Marketing Overview 

01:14 Impressions & Impact: Mitri Shatara's Marketing Metrics 

02:00 Billboard Evolution: Alexander Shannara's Journey from 2008 

03:11 Traditional Marketing Challenges: Cost, Personalization & Attribution 

05:28 Brand Awareness vs. Brand Loyalty: The Marketing Evolution 

07:29 Modern Marketing Mix: From "Spray and Pray" to Targeted Approach 

09:07 Tech Stack Integration: HubSpot & Digital Solutions 

11:00 Memorable Marketing: Ed Herman & Jeremy Corray on Creating Connection 

14:00 Brand Affection Strategy: Moving Beyond Awareness 

15:35 Community Content: Three Lawyers Eating Sandwiches 

16:39 Authenticity in Marketing: The Power of Genuine Content 

18:00 Finding Your Voice: Working with Non-Natural Performers 

20:22 Brand Identity: John Berry on Three-Word Brand Definition 

21:00 Veterans First Strategy: Berry Law's Focused Approach 

22:05 Billboard Branding: The 2-Second Rule 

24:00 Community Integration: Building Brand Through Local Involvement 

27:07 Outro

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