How might Pete and Jen (and the listeners) say the things they think they cannot say? That is the topic that Pete and Jen dig in to this week.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• How can you apply the idea of saying what you think you cannot say in the corporate and theatrical fields?
• How does this kind of communication actually create efficiencies?
• How does this show up in Pete's life? And in Jen's?

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