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Episode 4: Ethan Nadelmann, founder and former executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance and host of the Psychoactive podcast.

This episode was recorded on July 20th, 2022.
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00:00:00 Foreword
00:02:04 Ethan and Finland.
00:02:47 Ethan's interest in drugs.
00:05:09 Cannabis, psychedelics and drug policy activism.
00:08:07 Psychedelic exceptionalism.
00:11:07 US Constitution and freedom.
00:15:31 Drugs and poison in Portugal.
00:17:26 The Founding Fathers and drug policy.
00:21:31 Freedom of religion and drug use?
00:27:50 Ethan's interest in drug policy reform.
00:32:11 Does the drug war equal prohibition?
00:34:18 Drug war rhetoric in the Philippines.
00:38:30 Drug policy, racism and stigmatization.
00:43:38 Jewish roots as a motivational force.
00:49:49 Drugs and the Third Reich.
00:55:49 Recognizing the end of the drug war.
01:01:12 The war on e-cigarettes.
01:08:47 Snus and nicotine harm reduction.
01:14:11 Black market cannabis after legalization.
01:22:33 Why does prohibition make organized crime more violent?
01:27:20 More effective policing, more violent gangs.
01:34:59 The drug war makes cops stupid and corrupt.
01:39:24 Finnish cops and drug policy reform.
01:44:18 The rise of American neo-fascism.
01:53:10 Reform and anti-drug conservatives.
02:02:28 Liberty, freedom and the left.
02:06:40 Should all drugs be legally regulated?
02:10:52 A dark legalization scenario.
02:14:00 The idea of "a drug free world" as a form of totalitarianism.
02:17:40 Short final questions.
02:22:49 Afterword

Ethan's Twitter https://twitter.com/ethannadelmann
The Psychoactive podcast https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-psychoactive-84544756
Drug Policy Alliance's web site https://drugpolicy.org/
Drug Policy Alliance's Twitter https://twitter.com/DrugPolicyOrg

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