DiscoverCurious on Earth podcast#9 Zak Stein: Avoid AI dystopia, solve the metacrisis. Education beyond schooling. The Eye of Value.
#9 Zak Stein: Avoid AI dystopia, solve the metacrisis. Education beyond schooling. The Eye of Value.

#9 Zak Stein: Avoid AI dystopia, solve the metacrisis. Education beyond schooling. The Eye of Value.

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Episode 9: Philosopher of education and futurist Zak Stein. This episode was recorded on March 12, 2024.


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00:00:00 Foreword
00:02:18 AI and metacrisis.
00:05:13 Technology and humanity.
00:09:04 Both centralized and decentralized solutions.
00:15:42 What is education?
00:18:43 The uniqueness of human learning.
00:23:24 The dialectic between learning and education.
00:27:27 Reading is not seeing is not hearing.
00:32:48 A catastrophe that will be hard to recognize until it's too late.
00:36:32 Intrinsic values.
00:39:37 Love – the last value standing?
00:48:29 The Eye of Value and vulnerable forms of life.
00:51:37 The infinite value of a tree.
00:54:59 Desires.
00:59:53 Truth without experts.
01:05:17 Postmodernism and values.
01:08:26 Beyond postmodernism.
01:17:29 Planetary culture superstructure.
01:22:44 Social media and the pressure to have a public opinion.
01:26:33 The proper value of education, learning and technology.
01:28:13 Afterword


Zak's web page https://www.zakstein.org/
The Consilience Project https://consilienceproject.org
Zak's book Education in a Time Between Worlds https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/44125536-education-in-a-time-between-worlds
Zak in Emerge podcast (episode AI Tutor Acocalypse) https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/zak-stein-ai-tutor-apocalypse/id1057220344?i=1000610403148
Scott Alexander's article Love and Liberty https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/love-and-liberty
Zak's essay on the Eye of Value: https://www.zakstein.org/uploads/1/4/2/4/142408092/opening_the_eye_of_value_stein_2024.pdf
David Chapman's Meaningness https://meaningness.com


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#9 Zak Stein: Avoid AI dystopia, solve the metacrisis. Education beyond schooling. The Eye of Value.

#9 Zak Stein: Avoid AI dystopia, solve the metacrisis. Education beyond schooling. The Eye of Value.

Henry Soinnunmaa