In this candid and reflective “No Guest but Nuggets” episode, the Busy Being Born duo engage in a deep, unfiltered conversation marking five years of podcasting, personal growth, and creative evolution.

Recording from a new studio (wrestling the thrill of improved lighting and the surprise of performance jitters), they open up about what life has looked like lately: parenting wins, shifting priorities, health experiments, and creative milestones.

From Kigondu directing "Kifo Kisimani" (On stage this August 2nd and 3rd at Jain Bhavan), working on high-profile translations, and prepping television premieres, to the joy of Kamande’s six-year-old’s first coherent email (with emojis) , the hosts share stories that are as heartfelt as they are humorous. They unpack Kenya’s political cycles and the role of this generation, this episode balances heartfelt gratitude with honest introspection.

The hosts open up about their ongoing health journeys tweaking protein intake, navigating injuries, and learning to treat both body and mind with patience. They speak candidly about embracing human traits like envy and jealousy with compassion instead of shame, finding tenderness in self-awareness.

Five years in, the duo pause to celebrate the Busy Being Born community, complete with shout-outs to the production team and heartfelt thanks to listeners. It’s an episode that feels like both a pause and a deep breath before the next climb.

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Show notes and links

Listen in to learn:

• How a new recording space can transform creative energy (and nerves)


• Why parenting remains the most “energy-giving” part of life


• How to sustain a fitness routine while recovering from injury


• Accepting envy, jealousy, and comparison with compassion


• Why personal meaning should sit at the heart of life priorities


• How creative projects shape personal and professional growth


• How maombi ya matheeis the gift that keeps giving.

Books, Entertainment Cultural Consumption Resources & Mentions:

• Petals of Blood by Ngũgĩ wa Thiong’o


• Sinners(film) - declared the best of the year


• Tune in to 'Center Stage' radio show on Pawa Radio every Thursday


• Buy your Kifo Kisimani tickets (2nd and 3rd  August at Jain Bhavan) HERE


• Qware TV show premiere (July 20)- Maisha Magic


• F1 movie discussed as fantastic but not the greatest F1 film compared to 'Ford versus Ferrari'.


• Ryan Coogler identified as 'man of the year' for his work with Proximity Media.


• Music preferences include Lil Sims' 'Lotus' album and dub music, with plans to attend Okello Max’s 'Healing' album launch.


• Interest in Pope Leo's initiative to bring back Latin chanting and Gregorian singing to Catholic Church


• Personal connection to Gregorian chants for meditation and spiritual practices.

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