This week, Lisa and Aimee are finding that they’re always busy, always rushing, and often running out the door way too late. Could they be doing better when it comes to being productive, or are they just holding themselves to impossibly high standards?

They’re joined by Zibby Owens, the majorly multi-tasking host of the podcast “Moms Don’t Have Time to Read Books” and editor of Moms Don’t Have Time to: A Quarantine Anthology. Zibby helps them embrace the overbooked nature of our lives today and offers a new way to think about tackling their to-do lists: task-stacking.

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Our theme music is by Low Cut Connie.

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