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A Look Back on Counseling

A Look Back on Counseling

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Jennifer Fisher and Angela Kinsey, best friends and former "The Office" co-stars, host the "Office Ladies" podcast, where they break down episodes of "The Office" and share exclusive behind-the-scenes stories. In this episode, they discuss "Counseling," the second episode of season 7. They reveal that Toby's diploma in the episode is a real diploma from Temple University, and they share a letter from the associate vice president for marketing and communications at Temple University who helped get Toby his degree. They also discuss Pam's storyline in the episode, where she scams her way into a new job title, and they share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss Dwight's storyline, where he seeks revenge on a salesman who snubbed him at the Steentown Mall, and they share a story from a listener who loves the scene where Dwight tries to have his "Pretty Woman" moment. They also discuss the scene where Michael and Toby play Connect 4 and share stories from therapists who have used this episode in trainings to demonstrate the therapeutic power of play. They also discuss the scene where Michael flips the bird at Toby and share a story from a therapist who points out the inconsistencies with professional ethics in Toby's therapy. They also discuss the scene where Pam gets Michael's signature on a form and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to get a new title and a raise. They also discuss the scene where Pam makes a "ribbled humping gesture" by Meredith's desk and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Darryl mentions Kate Walsh and share a story from Kate Walsh herself who says she has never had a home office covered in corkboard. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for herself. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for himself. Jennifer and Angela also discuss the scene where Ryan delivers a talking head at the end of the episode, and they reveal that it was actually one complete take, not a series of edited clips, as some fans had speculated. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for himself.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction

This Chapter introduces the podcast "Office Ladies" hosted by Jennifer Fisher and Angela Kinsey, former co-stars of "The Office." They explain the podcast's format, which involves breaking down episodes of "The Office" and sharing behind-the-scenes stories.

00:00:26
Counseling

This Chapter focuses on the episode "Counseling," the second episode of season 7. The episode revolves around Michael's punishment for spanking Luke, which involves six hours of counseling sessions with Toby. Dwight seeks revenge on a salesman who snubbed him at the Steentown Mall, and Pam scams her way into a new job title.

00:59:41
Ryan's Talking Head

This Chapter discusses the scene where Ryan delivers a talking head at the end of the episode "Counseling." Jennifer and Angela reveal that it was actually one complete take, not a series of edited clips, as some fans had speculated. They also discuss the scene where Dwight buys a wizard statue and share a story from a listener who was inspired by Pam's storyline to create a new job title for himself.

Keywords

The Office


A popular American mockumentary sitcom that aired from 2005 to 2013. The show follows the lives of office workers at the fictional Dunder Mifflin Paper Company in Scranton, Pennsylvania. It is known for its humor, relatable characters, and heartwarming moments.

Office Ladies


A podcast hosted by Jennifer Fisher and Angela Kinsey, former co-stars of "The Office." The podcast breaks down episodes of "The Office" and shares exclusive behind-the-scenes stories.

Counseling


The second episode of season 7 of "The Office." The episode revolves around Michael's punishment for spanking Luke, which involves six hours of counseling sessions with Toby. Dwight seeks revenge on a salesman who snubbed him at the Steentown Mall, and Pam scams her way into a new job title.

Temple University


A large public research university located in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. It is known for its strong academic programs, particularly in the fields of law, medicine, and business.

Steentown Mall


A fictional mall featured in "The Office." It is a popular shopping destination for the characters, and it is often the setting for comedic moments.

Pretty Woman


A 1990 romantic comedy film starring Julia Roberts and Richard Gere. The film tells the story of a Hollywood prostitute who is hired by a wealthy businessman to be his escort for a week. The film is known for its iconic scenes, including the scene where Roberts gets revenge on a snooty shop owner.

Corkboard


A type of bulletin board made of cork. It is often used in offices and homes to display photos, memos, and other items.

Disposable Camera


A type of camera that uses a single roll of film that cannot be replaced. Disposable cameras are often used for special occasions or for taking casual photos.

Connect 4


A classic board game where players drop colored discs into a grid, trying to get four of their discs in a row.

Double Bird


A rude gesture made by extending the middle finger of both hands. It is considered offensive and is often used to express anger or frustration.

Q&A

  • What is the format of the "Office Ladies" podcast?

    Jennifer Fisher and Angela Kinsey, best friends and former "The Office" co-stars, host the "Office Ladies" podcast, where they break down episodes of "The Office" and share exclusive behind-the-scenes stories.

  • How did Toby get his Temple University diploma in the episode "Counseling"?

    The associate vice president for marketing and communications at Temple University helped get Toby his degree. He was a fan of the show and thought it was worth a shot. It took calls to the university registrar, the university council, and the conjoling of several others to clear the path for this to happen.

  • What is the "Pretty Woman" moment that Dwight tries to have in the episode "Counseling"?

    Dwight seeks revenge on a salesman who snubbed him at the Steentown Mall. He tries to have his "Pretty Woman" moment by dressing up in fancy clothes and confronting the salesman.

  • What is the therapeutic power of play, and how is it demonstrated in the episode "Counseling"?

    The therapeutic power of play is the use of games and activities to help people express their feelings and work through their problems. In the episode "Counseling," Toby uses games like Connect 4 and cards to get Michael to talk about his feelings.

  • What is the ethical dilemma with Toby's therapy in the episode "Counseling"?

    Toby is Michael's coworker and friend, which creates a conflict of interest. Ethically, he should have referred Michael to someone else.

  • How did Pam get her new job title in the episode "Counseling"?

    Pam scams her way into a new job title by telling people she is the office administrator. She then gets Michael and Meredith to sign a form that makes her the office administrator.

  • What is the "ribbled humping gesture" that Pam makes in the episode "Counseling"?

    Pam makes a "ribbled humping gesture" by Meredith's desk. It is a sexual gesture that is meant to be funny, but standards and practices had something to say about it.

  • What is the connection between Kate Walsh and the episode "Counseling"?

    Darryl mentions Kate Walsh in the episode, saying that he saw her home office covered in corkboard. Kate Walsh herself says that she has never had a home office covered in corkboard.

  • What is the scene that was cut from the episode "Counseling"?

    The scene that was cut from the episode "Counseling" involves Dwight smashing the wizard statue and stealing the crystal. It is a funny scene that is included in the deleted scenes on the DVD.

  • Was Ryan's talking head at the end of "Counseling" a series of edited clips or one complete take?

    Ryan's talking head at the end of the episode was actually one complete take, not a series of edited clips, as some fans had speculated.

Show Notes

This week we’re taking a look back on “Counseling”. After spanking his nephew at work, Michael undergoes counseling with Toby. Meanwhile, Dwight attempts to get his “Pretty Woman” revenge at a Steamtown Mall shop and Pam gives herself a promotion. We hear an original “Whispers in the Breakroom” by musician Elyse Myers. Jenna reveals the backstory behind how Michael came to hate Toby, Angela shares why Dwight wanted that wizard statue so badly, and we get a fun audio clip from actress Kate Walsh! If you don’t listen to this episode, big mistake, HUGE! 

 

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