We’re now on episode 18 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we are joined once more by a fraudster we contacted on the darknet. 

Anonymous G, as we’ll call them, is an expert at targeting financial institutions, both in terms of account takeover (ATO) and also onboarding using a fake ID and phone number.

We’ll pick their brains about how they bypass OTP and 2FA, and what they think of new authentication methods such as Apple IDs.

The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.

The goal? To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.

Interview by Jimmy Fong

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