What do tech and media look like in five years? Plus: Sam Altman as slippery character and AI comes to search and devices.

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• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:28 Sam Altman and Scarlett Johansson Controversy
• 06:43 Microsoft's AI Integration in Hardware
• 13:39 Google AI and the Future of Search
• 20:32 Speculations on AI's Long-Term Effects
• 33:21 Five Years into the Future: A Thought Exercise
• 40:39 AI Redefines Hardware
• 44:50 Advertising in the AI Era
• 50:05 Media Consumption Trends
• 57:36 Good Product
• 01:03:53 Podcast Reflections