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Anti-Black/Jewish/Gay Voters Turned on Trump & He Did Better Than Ever

Anti-Black/Jewish/Gay Voters Turned on Trump & He Did Better Than Ever

Update: 2024-11-14
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An in-depth analysis of the recent trend of far-right influencers like Nick Fuentes, Richard Spencer, and David Duke turning against Trump and the Republican Party. Learn why this exodus is actually strengthening the conservative movement and creating a more inclusive, successful political coalition.

We examine how these influencers' personal failures contradict their ideological positions, why their vision of conservatism is based on progressive stereotypes rather than historical reality, and how their departure is making room for more effective leaders like Scott Pressler. This video explores:

* The difference between healthy cultural pride and toxic ethno-nationalism

* Why pluralistic societies historically outperform homogeneous ones

* The importance of family success in validating political philosophy

* How the Republican Party is becoming a "united network of clans"

* Why competitive cooperation between different groups strengthens America

* The contrast between building up versus tearing down other cultures

A fascinating look at how the Republican Party is evolving and why its rejection of extremist elements is a sign of strength, not weakness.

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Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. Today we are going to be talking about an interesting. Phenomenon, which is that individuals who have racist tendencies or who are skeptical about Jewish or gay people have been turning against Trump in droves recently.

What is going on there? Yeah, it does seem like this trend. And and very aggressively. So it used to be that in every election cycle, your famous racist would have these moments where they might, you know, tongue in cheek, support a Democratic candidate to try to make them look bad.

And so people couldn't say that they were supporting the Republicans. That is not what is happening anymore. They hate Trump and they are actively attempting to get their fan bases to vote against him.

Simone Collins: Really? Because I was mostly assuming that these were tongue in cheek harmful.

Malcolm Collins: No, and I'll, I'll provide a contrasting example here that is still tongue in cheek, which is Curtis Yarvin.

But if you look at Nick Fuentes, [00:01:00 ] Richard Spencer, David Duke or Leather Apron Club, they have all done aggressively anti Trump messages before the election asking their followers not to vote. The gist of why they're doing this is they have this perception of , if this party cannot be actively and aggressively anti Jewish, racist and homophobic, then I'm just going to go home.

And they don't like how far it's moved on those issues. Whereas, you know, we basically respond with.

Speaker 11: I'm leaving.

Speaker 10: Okay then, that was always allowed.

Malcolm Collins: So, we're gonna go through every one of these individuals, what they've said about Trump recently go through some of the arguments that they've used for why they're leaving, and we're also going to discuss the effects of this on the Republican Party, largely really positive.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Very, very positive. If the left could achieve this with their toxic, racist, [00:02:00 ] bigoted faction,

that far rookies they would be able to win mainstream elections. So that's, that's one thing to note here. The second thing that we're going to talk about is all of these individuals who have this weird, I'd almost say sort of aesthetic cargo cult idea of what it means to be a conservative.

None of them are above repopulation rate and none of them seem to have a happy marriage.

Speaker 16: Jerry, marriage is a lot of work. We have to plan for a house, plan for a baby. Babies cost a lot of money.

Speaker 15: What? Babies don't cost money, they make money. Especially those little white ones.

Speaker 16: Look, you have to get serious about this.

Speaker 15: Or what, huh? You gonna hit me? No, I'm not gonna hit

Speaker 16: you, Jerry.

Speaker 15: You don't wanna beat me or screw me? What kind of marriage is this? Bring a book.

Malcolm Collins: And this is something I really want to focus on because these are not individuals. If they're coming to you and saying, I have this version of what America used to be and how America used to be great, that you can follow and learn from what I would point out is.

Just from the evidence, you can see [00:03:00 ] they're wrong. Whatever they're selling you doesn't work and is short for this world. All right, so let's get it through. First, I would start with the counter example, Curtis Yarvin. Curtis Yarvin did do a don't vote for Trump piece. But what he really said was, You should, whoever we're voting for should be made dictator, and I'd take a Biden dictatorship over a Trump presidency.

Ah, yeah. And he's like, look, I'm a monarchist, and I'm a radical monarchist. He doesn't hate the

Simone Collins: player, he hates the game.

Malcolm Collins: He doesn't hate the player, he hates the game. And you know what? Whatever. Like, that's a fun based point. I like Curtis a lot. And I think that he is a solid and truly independent intellectual that disagrees with us on tons of stuff.

Microphone (4- ATR2100x-USB Microphone)-3: Y Curtis works as a good counter example. Here is while he is someone who, if a presidential candidate was seen as being endorsed by him, their reputation could be hurt. He doesn't have an ounce of genuine. anti-gay bias. , [00:04:00 ] anti-Semitic bias or. Racial bias in any of his works, despite what some people would tell you.

Simone Collins: He's

Malcolm Collins: awesome. So that's, that's him. We're, technically he's saying I would actually prefer Trump, but like, I'm not going to put that in writing, given how it would, it could hurt his, his candidacy. Next, we have Nick Fuentes. Who is extremely anti immigrant, he's a Catholic integralist, he wants the United States to operate, basically he wants a globalist Catholic monarchy.

To rule the world or a Catholic government of some sort, theocracy. You know, following the syllabus of errors written by Pope Pius IX. I don't want to go too into theology here. I find the integralist movement pretty interesting. Mostly I find it silly that you could want a globalist Catholic monarchy to rule the world, but then think our country can't survive with a mostly Catholic immigrant population which is what the Hispanic immigrants are, you're like, no, no, no, we can't survive with them.

And it's like, well, They are the group that you say, like, you want ruling everything. If your internal divisions are so great already, I don't think your ultimate vision [00:05:00 ] is going to play out very well. But anyway, he said, I'm not a Republican and I don't care that much. And I'm not going to turn out. He said this on his, his live stream on rumble after the RNC event concluded, he said, I don't even really care.

I'm not energetic. I'm not enthusiastic. I'm not leaving my house to vote, vote for what for JD Vance and Usher. I'm not voting for this. I'm not lending my credibility to this. He added. As a real conservative, as a real right wing individual, you could not force me to care about this. You could not bribe me to care about this.

I don't care. I don't want to look at it anymore. So this is not like a like Curtis is saying, which is like veiled support, but like knowing this is him, like actually being pissed off at the Republicans. Let's go with Richard Spencer. I deeply regret voting and promoting Donald Trump in 2016. Wow.

Now here we can begin to get into why these people hate him. And I think, Oh, [00:06:00 ] Oh, this is a really common thing you'll see across this. He says to the people of Iran, there are millions of Americans who do not want war. We do not hate you and we respect your nation and its history. After our traitorous elite is brought to justice, we hope to achieve peace, reconciliation, and forgiveness.

Basically, they want the state of Israel destroyed. And they support anyone who's attempting to do that, whether it's Iran or Gaza or anything like that. And as such, they do not like that the main and Trump is As pro Israel as you get when I was in Israel, this is right after he moved the embassy there when everyone was like, Oh my God, you can't move the embassy to a Jerusalem.

Like that's horrible. And it's going to cause all sorts of pain. And he's like, Yolo. He does it and Israel loves it. They're like broadcasting his face on everything. So, you know, obviously he doesn't give a flying F what these people take. And the new right generally does it. Most of the new right is fairly pro.

Israel. We could get into why later in this. [00:07:00 ] Now, what did David Duke have to say? Well, David Duke said, I'm sorry, when I say pro Israel, I mean pro Jewish. A lot of people are like, oh, no, it's only Zionists. It's not being anti Jewish to be anti Israel. And then I point out, depending on the poll you're looking at, it's between 85 and 95 percent of Jews would be categorized as Zionists.

And so if you're saying, Oh, I don't hate the Jews, I just hate 95 percent of Jews or like, I don't hate the Christians. I just hate the ones who think that Jesus Christ was the son of God or something like that. It's like, well, I mean, that's a pretty close to a perfect circle. And if you know Jewish history, you can understand why they might not feel comfortable in a state where they're a minority.

But anyway the next here

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Anti-Black/Jewish/Gay Voters Turned on Trump & He Did Better Than Ever

Anti-Black/Jewish/Gay Voters Turned on Trump & He Did Better Than Ever

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