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Can Dems Ever Win Again? Charting a Realistic Path to Political Relevancy

Can Dems Ever Win Again? Charting a Realistic Path to Political Relevancy

Update: 2024-11-15
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In this engaging discussion, Simone and Malcolm tackle the pressing issue of how the Democrats can reverse their electoral fortunes. Despite losing support across various demographics, they delve into potential strategies and changes the Democratic party can implement. The conversation covers topics such as the extremist influence within both major parties, the impact of Donald Trump's policies, and the shifts in voter demographics. They also discuss the necessity for the left to distance itself from 'woke' extremism to regain broader appeal. The episode ends with a hopeful note on rebuilding the Democratic party after significant defeats.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00 ] Hello, Simone! Today, we are going to come up with a hypothesis for how the Democrats can win the next election cycle, how they can fix the downward spiral, because they are losing in every demographic. They are losing in women. They are losing in black men and women. They are losing in Every younger generation, both men and women, is voting more conservatively every generation at this point.

It is bad for Dems. They are losing hard in the Hispanic population. Kamala did worse than Biden in literally every state. And I think one of the key things is, is that both parties have an extremist problem.

On the right, there were some people, or extremists is the wrong way to put it. Some people who embody the negative stereotype that the other party paints that party as having. So in the right, we paint the left as being these crazy wokers and on the left they paint us as being crazy racist. Yeah. As we pointed out in the last video, the crazy racists all left the right, denounce Trump and want nothing to do with him and say [00:01:00 ] they feel uncomfortable at right wing rallies now.

Yay for us, we sucked out the venom, spit it in a toilet.

Microphone (Wireless Microphone Rx): If you didn't watch that video in it, we know that almost every prominent. Racist anti-Semitic or homophobic. Mainstream right-wing voice denounced Trump and asked their followers not to vote for him leading up to the election. And for people who think that this is a femoral or just something that's happening among the. Influencer class here. We actually see this in the data. If you look between the first time Trump was elected and this time Trump was elected, he did worse among white men. Where he exploded in support. Whitten contrasting between these election cycles. Is. Blacks and Hispanics. Specifically Hispanic men. And it is because we, as a country have reached a place where Hispanic men who actually care more about the immigration crisis, then white men [00:02:00 ] do,

I've come to realize that the Republican party is not racist, but that's something that was only possible because the Republican party. Expelled its racist element. So we can talk about things like the immigration crisis outside of a racialist lens.

Microphone (Wireless Microphone Rx)-1: And if you look at the counties where the difference in voting was the most, this election cycle.

They are the counties that were overwhelmingly Hispanic. The dims thought this demographics is destiny thing. We can just increase the number of minorities in this country and we'll win forever. And they, they thought that this plan would work for them. In the meantime, Trump has been building his support within the very communities the Democrats thought they had on lock.

Microphone (Wireless Microphone Rx)-2: With things like the Hispanic community moving in a direction where they might become a majority Republican voting block in the near future. This is an existential crisis for Democrats.

Which have largely just become a party of college brainwashed elites.

Microphone (Wireless Microphone Rx)-3: This is something that was only possible because Trump took the.

Republican [00:03:00 ] parties version of the woke population, the extremists who represent the negative stereotype, that the other party paints of the Republican party and made the. party unpalatable to them. The left hasn't been able to do this with their woke extremists.

Malcolm Collins: The left, they've got a problem. Because they have platform. These people, these people own their rallies. These people own the soldiers of their events. Meanwhile, we got rid of any like racist foot soldiers. We had any homophobic foot soldiers we have in who did we replace them with wholesome paragons of humanity like Scott Pressler, right?

So let's talk about. One, I think this is really interesting. I'm gonna play a piece here from the New York Times podcast, and it's gonna go over their analysis of what they did wrong their analysis of what they need to change. And I think it shows how bad things are. So the 1st thing they're going to go over here is they're going to say, [00:04:00 ] we need to make this about class struggle again, while remembering that the lower classes.

Are only black people and women and black women mostly.

Speaker 7: So what happens now to the Democratic coalition? Where, where do we go from here? . You know, does depolarization by race and by class and by gender and by geography, does that create opportunities?

Thank you for putting

Speaker 8: it that way. I think one of the challenges that the Democratic Party has is that they are going to have to rediscover the language of class and not what class meant in the 1960s. Yeah, but the understanding that really the working class today are women and women of color. And so, yeah, building a new factory actually is not responding to their economic needs.

Malcolm Collins: Sorry, I want to hear your reaction to this because this is insane.

Simone Collins: How? Wait, so the whole hillbilly, elegy, forgotten American class is not considered poor even if they're dying from deaths of despair and they're losing jobs and their [00:05:00 ] communities are crumbling.

They don't know the woman

Malcolm Collins: who said this should have been said, like, if, if the left was operating the way the right did now,

Simone Collins: the

Malcolm Collins: other person on the show, because this woman was a black person arguing for her own self interest. You are a bigot, you are a racist, , and you need to, like, address whether or not your beliefs are based in ethno supremacy or any sort of tie to reality. Because it sounds like you're arguing from a position of ethno supremacy, only your people matter. Cause this is a black woman saying this.

When in reality, the reason they lost is because of this form of racism that they, and bigotry that they, and so they'll say, Oh, it's not racism. Well, it's bigotry at least. That anyone could think that in America, class was a race based thing when you know that this woman got major benefits in her life.

Simone Collins: And this

Malcolm Collins: is one of these things, people are like, , Camilla wasn't woke, why didn't she win? This is like an important question the left needs to engage [00:06:00 ] with. Why didn't Camilla win despite being not woke? Because she didn't attack. the systemic and racist system that woke ism set up,

Simone Collins: right?

Malcolm Collins: Pamela should have gone on stage and said, I know that I achieved this position of the nomination due to a systemically unfair system. If I was white, Or I was a man. I would not have this position that in my throughout my entire life. I have had advantages that other people in this country can only dream up.

And that is why I have this position of power. And I am Humble in the face of all of the systemic pressures that gave me an advantage over people who are working. But she,

Simone Collins: she would not have been able to argue that without drawing serious attack because her behavior in the past has shown her willingness to exercise her privilege [00:07:00 ] while throwing systemically underprivileged people like jailed populations under the bus.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, and I need to point out here when I say that. Black people have systemic privilege. I'm talking about black middle class and upper class people. Black lower class people are still pretty fucked in this country. And by people like Kamala, who by the way, left a huge population in prison, black population in prison.

She knew the crime lab had been compromised but she wanted to win an election cycle. She didn't care about them because the black middle class and upper class in this country sees the black lower class as scum. As inhuman, she doesn't care about leaving them in jail. She doesn't care about them being shot on the street.

She doesn't care about their businesses being burned down. You know, her you know, like it was Her running

Simone Collins: mate's wife opening her windows to smell the smoke. Yeah, being

Malcolm Collins: burned and being like, well, at least they're, they're having this little celebration the BLM celebration. It's disgusting. They don't care about the damage that they do to these communities because they don't see them as mattering [00:08:00 ] because All of the systemic privileges that they have fought for are only accrued by middle and upper class black individuals.

And I think that most of the black world has f*****g figured this out by now. And then even if you are a hardworking middle or upper class black individual, that these systems end up backfiring for you. Because they make everyone think that you got everything you did. based on privilege. And people

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Can Dems Ever Win Again? Charting a Realistic Path to Political Relevancy

Can Dems Ever Win Again? Charting a Realistic Path to Political Relevancy

Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm