In this episode, I’m speaking with chronic fatigue expert Dr. Evan Hirsch in his third appearance on the Energy Blueprint Podcast. 

In this episode, we talk about how his approach to chronic fatigue and ME/CFS has evolved over the years and how he’s now working with patients who have long COVID. He also describes what he calls “The Toxic 5” and how these are at the root of many fatigue issues.

In this podcast, Dr. Hirsch and I discuss:

• The “Toxic 5” primary reasons Dr. Hirsch believes people struggle with chronic fatigue

• The crucial importance of addressing toxicity, protocol simplification, and brain retraining in ME/CFS

• How long-term infections—now, including COVID—contribute to fatigue and their interplay with other root causes

• The usefulness of testing and how much weight you should (or shouldn’t!) place on certain test results

• Dr. Hirsch’s experience with ozone therapy, hyperbaric therapy, and IV vitamin C and why his stance has shifted over the years

• One very surprising (and scary) statistic on mold and two key ways to get mycotoxins out of your body

• The safest way to rid the body of heavy metals and the dire consequences people suffer if they aren’t ready to detox properly 

• The most problematic heavy metal and Dr. Hirsch’s recommendations for how to avoid it

• His approach to long COVID and the problem with COVID persistence, i.e., spike proteins remaining in the body in a latent state

• “Brain retraining” (a technique Dr. Hirsch learned about from his patients!) and the powerful combination of addressing the mind AND body for people with chronic fatigue