In This Episode

We kick off with a crossover segment featuring Fintech Takes host and fintech insider Alex Johnson, who joins Jason to break down major themes from Money20/20 2024. Together, they explore the hot topics shaping fintech right now: bank-fintech partnerships, Banking-as-a-Service (BaaS), open banking (1033), and the evolving role of AI.

Alex shares highlights from his on-stage interview with CFPB Director Rohit Chopra, where they discussed the finalized 1033 rule, the ongoing legal pushback from big banks, third-party risk management, and new BaaS standards aimed at creating more balanced partnerships. The duo also dives into the rapid-fire world of AI. Is it all just hype, or are we approaching real innovation? With regulation on the rise, there’s a lot for the industry to figure out—standards, safeguards, and perhaps even a looming digital divide.

Finally, Jason wraps things up with a lively chat with Mary Wisniewski, Editor-at-Large for Cornerstone Advisors. They discuss financial therapy, Mary’s perspective on the latest 1033 updates, and even squeeze in a bit of Texas Hill Country fun. Hit play and join us for a packed episode!

Read the entire transcript here.

Podcast Content:

Chapter 1: 00:00 – Welcome and Overview of Money 2020

Brett King introduces the episode, discussing highlights from Money 2020, including insights into fintech trends and key partnerships.

Chapter 2: 04:30 – Money 2020 Recap: Open Banking and 1033 Drama

A reflection on the regulatory and industry conversations around open banking and the CFPB’s finalized 1033 rule.

Chapter 3: 12:15 – Bank-Fintech Partnerships: Collaboration and Challenges

Insights into third-party risk management, standard-setting challenges, and the evolving dynamics of bank-fintech partnerships.

Chapter 4: 20:45 – The AI Hype Cycle: Balancing Reality and Expectations

Exploring the current state of AI in financial services, separating meaningful use cases from overhyped promises.

Chapter 5: 29:00 – The Role of Regulators in Banking Innovation

A deep dive into regulatory implications for open banking, AI, and fintech partnerships, featuring insights from Director Chopra of the CFPB.

Chapter 6: 36:45 – The Digital Divide: Small vs. Large Banks

Analyzing how smaller banks face challenges in adopting open banking and AI, and the competitive advantages of larger institutions.

Chapter 7: 45:30 – Financial Therapy: Behavioral Insights and Spending Habits

A discussion on the emerging field of financial therapy and its applications for understanding consumer behavior.

Chapter 8: 52:00 – Platform vs. Point Solutions in AI

Examining the pros and cons of platforms versus point solutions in banking, with examples from the Glia conference.

Chapter 9: 59:30 – Looking Ahead: Open Banking as a Competitive Opportunity

Final thoughts on how banks can leverage open banking proactively rather than just complying with regulations.

Related Content:

• Shopify Finance: Fueling Merchant and Small Business Growth


• Banks and Fintechs: Tips for Partnership


• Episode 465: Balancing Friction and Fraud in the Global Economy


• Episode 517: Expectations vs. Reality: Latest Global Findings for Financial Services & Digital Identity


• Special Episode – Finovate: Financial Insights & Breaking Banks Anniversary Trailer

<figure class="wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio">

</figure>