In This Episode







AI is simultaneously taking over the world and disappointing in it’s ability to take over the world depending on the publication you read. No doubt we are in the first innings. Today Derek Higginbotham, CEO of First Electronic Bank, Matt Bochenek CEO of Avant and John Sun, CEO of Spring Labs, and Jason Henrichs talk about why everyone needs to be getting up to bat with AI, no matter the size of institution you work for.







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Podcast Chapters:







Chapter 1: 0:00 - Opening Pitch – AI and Its Hype Cycle







Brett King and Jason Henricks introduce the episode, framing AI as both transformative and overhyped. Guests discuss how AI adoption mirrors the rise of past technologies.







Chapter 2: 5:30 - Narrowing the Field – Strategic AI Use Cases







Derek Higginbotham, Matt Bocinek, and John Sun explore how financial institutions are narrowing down AI use cases, emphasizing incremental steps over broad adoption.







Chapter 3: 17:10 - Building Organizational AI Muscles







The discussion highlights how organizations can develop "AI muscles" by starting with small projects, learning from them, and ensuring flexibility for future applications.







Chapter 4: 27:45 - Data as the Foundation of AI Success







Panelists delve into the importance of robust data infrastructure, the challenges of siloed data in financial services, and how AI reshapes data-driven decision-making.







Chapter 5: 39:20 - Cultural Shifts and AI Adoption







The conversation shifts to cultural challenges in financial services, exploring how to transition from report-driven approaches to hypothesis-driven and data-informed decision-making.







Chapter 6: 50:05 - AI and Regulatory Compliance







The group discusses how AI is being integrated into regulatory compliance, emphasizing augmenting human capabilities rather than replacing them outright.







Chapter 7: 1:02:15 - Rethinking Processes with AI







A discussion on how AI compels institutions to rethink legacy processes, addressing “process debt” and identifying opportunities for deeper insights and efficiency.







Chapter 8: 1:15:30 - The Divide in AI Adoption







Panelists explore the implications of early vs. late AI adoption in financial services, predicting winners, losers, and the creation of an AI digital divide.







Chapter 9: 1:25:10 - Lessons for Financial AI Development







The episode concludes with key takeaways about the unique challenges of deploying AI in financial services and the need for specialized knowledge in regulated industries.







Read the entire transcript here.







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