In this episode, Pete talks with Dr Bob Gomersall, founder and chair of Surpass Assessment — the Bradford-based company behind one of the world’s leading digital exam platforms. Bob began his career as a physics teacher at Manchester Grammar School before setting up a small business designing medical equipment, which later evolved into work on computer-based assessment and learning technologies. He went on to found several successful ventures, including Virtual College and Advanced Digital Innovations, all driven by a belief in using technology to improve education and society.They discuss his early experiments running online tests back in the 1970s, the future of AI in education, how to lead with trust and autonomy, and his new book Worthwhile Wealth — a personal reflection on building businesses that create genuine value.