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Breaking Wind... of Winter (Sp2.11)

Breaking Wind... of Winter (Sp2.11)

Update: 2018-11-13
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On the eve of the release of... like... the 3rd major A Song of Ice and Fire publication since A Dance With Dragons that isn't titled "The Winds of Winter," #TPTWP find themselves struggling to identify a strange and uncomfortable feeling that overwhelms their Royal Persons re:ASoIaF.



The Promised Princes sought out mental health professionals for help, and they did their own Royal Research into "Human Feelings" and "Human Emotions," so as to identify what this feeling was. The conclusion that the Royal Research and the Royal Mental Health Professionals both came to was that John and SeannieWan were no longer feeling Angry and/or Frustrated each time The Winds of Winter came to their Royal Minds, but instead they were suddenly and inexplicably feeling a feeling that most commonfolk call "Hope."



Hope had never been a feeling that #TPTWP associated with The Winds of Winter... or George R. R. Martin... or A Song of Ice and Fire. Ergo... What gives???



WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!



SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...



Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...



John and SeannieWan discuss the very real possibility that their trolling of #GRRM may have been unnecessary and misinformed, albeit briefly is the adverb to describe the speed of their disussing, and brief is the discussion which they briefly discuss.



Has HBO been the real reason/motivation behind the inconceivably long wait for Volume 6 of ASoIaF since the release of Volume 5? Has there actually been a reason for the wait all along other than The Great Procrastinator doing what he does best- Procrastinating?



It's not TV... It's HBO*, but is it also why this professional writer has been unable to finish a professional project in nearly 8 years?



If so, is it possible that #GRRM has been one step ahead of us the whole time? Not likely... probably not... but maybe... but most likely probably not...



In the biggest twist in all of non-fiction since the Resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth, John does what the pro-wrestling fans "in the know" would call a "Face turn," and finds himself siding with The Great Procrastinator.



In addition to all the "Hope" that The Promised Princes are feeling and discussing, John and SeannieWan put the pedal to the metal and discuss The Winds of Winter as though it were the ASoIaF being released next week instead of Fire and Blood.



The Wardens of Long Island doth engage in a top-notch, professional-level-conversating conversation re:The Winds of Winter, and thus catch themselves up on the ASoIaF characters and storylines that will surely make up the narrative of The Winds of Winter. They also theorize as to where the narrative will go and how the cliffhangers of A Dance With Dragons will be resolved.



"Really really good stuff this episode!"
- George R. R. Marlin (editor of Wild Cars)



"#TPTWP have really done it this time!"
- George R. R. Martington (author of The Gang of Throngs)



"...truly this is a podcast... not... bad... good!"
- Eli O. (content editor for Westernbros.org)



Head's up! Possible SPOILERS for non-ASoIaF properties...



7:30:00 - Possible spoilers for 'Avengers 4,' though highly unlikely.



14:10:00 - Possible spoilers for 'Star Wars Episode IX,' though probably not.



The tweet that began the hype which led to hope...



Shortly before this episode was made available, news of Stan Lee's death at 95 years-old broke on every major news outlet.



To say that Stan Lee and his imagination directly molded our preference and enjoyment in and of fiction would not be nearly enough to do justice to his imagination and his influence.



To say that our own creativity is what it is because of those properties and ideas that Stan Lee created would be a shade of what should be said to honor how true that is.



To say that the work Stan Lee did, along with the work he procured, developed, and distributed, has become or was the basis for all quality fictional media entertainment in 2018 and is truly enjoyed by millions and millions of people around the world would only scratch the surface of the legacy that he leaves behind...



Excelsior!



The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan.
Join them as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones.



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The Trailer (Sp3.3)
Tho hath heard the rest. Now ye heareth the best.WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...John and Seannie-Wan extract huge amounts of entertaining conversation from the loins of a dozen brief clips. The Princes That Were Promised are John and Seannie-Wan. Join them as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2019 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and Seannie-Wan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

The Trailer (Sp3.3)

2019-03-1201:11:23

Bran the Broken (303)
BRAN: I am here! I received your messages and I sought you out, though it was at great cost. The old gods have helped me to find you. Will you help me to walk again?THREE-EYED RAVEN: You will never walk again but you will fly... though not literally, I'm afraid. What I'm saying is that from a certain point of view, what you may soon be capable of doing, and I speak to you thus, mind you, of the assumption that not only are you gifted as your friend... well, your deceased friend, as it were... and obviously, spoilers for the last 20 minutes of your life... where was I...? Oh... yes, I'm speaking with you... to you... as one man to another man, in spite of any... physical characteristics about ourselves that might make some think that we are not men but odd cave wizards... or mayhaps we question our own manhood as we dwell here in our cave... my cave, is what was meant, though I'm implying that you will make this... cold... and barren... rather depressing cave your home as well. I realize, young Brandon Stark... er... of Winterfell... that it might be misconstrued, these words I am speaking, or have spoken, or spake... one does have difficulty with proper tenses when one has an ability to view events in a non-canonical format... along with a solemn duty to keep on viewing events and send messages to young boys... er, men... such as tho... and I do believe that the saying is... eh... what was it now... ah! Yes! Putting the cart before the horse- an analogy truly fitting of this conversation in which we are both a part of... though it is not lost upon me... and rarely is anything lost upon me as I am blessed, or mayhaps cursed, with sight that men- be they men that do not live in caves and amongst the dirty, somewhat moldy roots of an ancient weirwood tree or men whose fate it is to walk freely under the bright sun, feel the soft grass beneath their feet, hear the laughter of children without feeling... empty?... on the inside... tho just a bit and only when their matters within the cave are... just... becoming a bit too much... or be they men whom possess the fortune, be it good or ill, of placing their hand upon the warm, soft bosom of the gentler sex... and I speak to ye, Brandon Stark, of women. I know much and more... some may believe I know all... so if tho know not of which I speak... or have spake... regarding... women... then rest easy that I will be happy to share with you the reasons that you feel the way you feel, a feeling I presume you are indeed... well, feeling, that may be strange and foreign to you, as it were, or as it was... as it is... very well might be... Indeed, young Brandon, a feeling twixt a glowing ember of fire within thine groin and a yearning for something that tho hath not been able to put thine fingers upon... to these feelings I can teach you much and more... if tho wish it to be.As we live together, here in our cave, my young lordling, you may be confident that there exists no question you might have about women or their soft and supple bodies that I will not be able to answer... and you may find that... Chip... and Chip would be... well... I don't see him at the moment but these... Children... of the Forest... these clever and... magical creatures are always coming and going and hiding and throwing things towards me... eh... oh yes- Chip, who hath the largest and the most foolish look to his stupid face... believe you me, bestest friend, you will recognize Chip as soon as tho hath laid thine eyes upon him. Chip is an old gods-damned liar and it is of the utmost importance that tho keepeth this in mind when Chip visits and begins to speak of matters that he knoweth naught about... and I must needs warn you that mine own great knowledge of women and ladies and what they look like naked will be the first truth that Chip will lie to you about. He will say that I know nothing of women or their... boobs... and what have ye... and I knowst true that Chip will deliver this lie to thine lordly ears for this hath happened before and I hath seen it happen again... and also I hath seen it happen before, long before before hath already happened... so do not believe anything that Chip says... Ahh... but of course you won't, young Brandon. Believeth not the fables of one such as Chip is a motto tho hath already lived by for the entirety of thine life... Yes... tho and I shall make the greatest of live-in partners... truly, the bestest of best friends... and 'tis for the better as there are countless, seemingly endless, and endless years... a feeling of eternity, truly, as though time is never-ending and we are but two best friends living in a cave for the entirety of it... yes... living in a cave and having a lot of great times together- telling one another stories and making one another laugh and talking about women and their bodies. I am so very happy that tho hath decided to seek me out and liveth within my domain and be my bestest friend, Bran Stark. But though it is pleasing to me, from the onset of our friendship here in our cave, I must needs stress that 'twas my cave first, as you know, and of the two of us, the two very bestest of friends and companions, 'tis I who hath been here in the cave longer and 'tis I who, as the first friend in the cave, owns final say on any decision we make as either friends or live-in partners... cave partners, if you will... eh... be tho in distress, my dearest friend?BRAN: I'm... I'm gonna go...WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...Bran the Broken. Bran Stark. Bran.The Princes That Were Promised are John and Seannie-Wan. Join them as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2019 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and Seannie-Wan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

Bran the Broken (303)

2019-03-0501:30:39

The Kingslayer (302)
He was intimate with his twin sister...As a teenager he swore an oath he would unlikely be able to keep...He broke the oath he made not long after he made it...He murdered his King and offered no explanation for why he did so...He pushed a young boy out of a tower window...He was labeled Kingslayer by his peers as an insult but embraced the title until it became legendary throughout Westeros...He is Ser Jaime Lannister and he is the truest knight in The Realm. WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...The Royally Official Fictional Analysis of Fictional Characters from Game of Thrones continues with a long, mostly-focused look at Ser Jaime Lannister, the former Lord Commander of The Kingsguard, The Savior of Kings Landing, and the truest knight in all of Westeros. From his arrogant visit at Winterfell and his mishaps and miscalculations in The Whispering Wood, all the way to the loss of his sword hand and the adjustment of his mindset to fit the current conditions of The Realm, The Princes That Were Promised cover Jaime's entire narrative through Game of Thrones. He is Seannie-Wan's favorite fictional character of all-time. He is fast becoming one of John's favorite characters. How can #TPTWP justify this considering all the unfathomable actions listed above?The Princes That Were Promised are John and Seannie-Wan. Join them as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2019 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and Seannie-Wan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

The Kingslayer (302)

2019-02-1401:25:45

The Crypts Teaser (Sp3.2)
The Promised Princes are surprisingly teased by a surprise teaser announcing the transmission date for the first of The Final Episodes of HBO's Game of Thrones! Although John announced the date long before HBO executives sat down to make any decisions whatsoever, and although John and Seannie-Wan both announced that David Benioff and D.B. Weiss would finish adapting The Great Procrastinator's story long before The Great Procrastinator was finished telling it, #TPTWP did not foresee an actual teaser preceding the date reveal.Also, it should be noted that The Promised Princes foresaw that no matter which method of revealing April 14th, 2019 as the premiere date that HBO chose to reveal the April 14th premiere date, it was bound to be a better method of revealing an April 14th premiere date than melting a giant block of ice the size of Harrenhal on Facebook Live.WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...The average Sunday Night HBO viewer would not think that there would be a metaphorical ton of entertaining conversation to be mined from a short teaser trailer. Mayhaps that is the true difference between an average Sunday Night HBO viewer and The Princes That Were Promised. Yes indeed, at the drop of a hat, John and Seannie-Wan are able to cover every angle and every possible take on The Crypts Teaser. More importantly, The Promised Princes are able to stray away from the silly and giddy analysis you might find on other internet streaming audio shows or YouTube channels. This analysis is hot and fresh, exciting yet grounded, and clever without being conceited. So Royally confident in their analysis of this teaser are #TPTWP, they gave the Royal seal of approval to the above analysis of their analysis. The Princes That Were Promised are John and Seannie-Wan. Join them as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the streaming audio program and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!PodcastCopyright 2016-2019 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and Seannie-Wan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

The Crypts Teaser (Sp3.2)

2019-01-3000:37:13

The Mad Queen (301)
The Mad Queen is a title befitting Queen Cersei Lannister... or is it? Yes. Yes it is. WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...The Princes That Were Promised begin their journey through the journies of the lead characters of HBO's Game of Thrones as The Final Episodes draw near. In less than four months, the journey that began in 2010, and redefined what prestige television can be, will be over and... frankly #TPTWP have no idea what Westeros will look like when the final closing credits hit the screen. Royally speaking, John and Seannie-Wan only know what is behind them, as it were, or rather what is behind the character that is the focus of the Royal contemplation, though admittedly this look back, be it metaphorical or intellectually metaphorical, doth work under the assumption, Royally or no, that time, in both a fictional story and a non-fictional conversation about a fictional story, can be viewed in a linear way. In other words, vis a vis, the completely fictional journey that has brought these fictional people to their final storylines can and will be spake about. This is the official The Princes That Were Promised run-up to what will very likely be the most-watched six episodes of television in HBO's history with viewership that we will never see again... probably. Begin the journey again, in a sense, sort of, with a analysis and rehash of Cersei 'Why Isn't Her Last Name Baratheon?' Lannister and her journey through the 7 series of Game of Thrones. Just don't forget to Remember Lady.#RememberLadyThe Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Join them as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a moment to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!! At the very least, tap that 5 Star Rating for your Promised Princes.Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2019 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and Seannie-Wan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

The Mad Queen (301)

2019-01-2701:31:14

Arbor Gold From France (Sp3.1)
They have a song... They are The Princes That Were Promised and their's is The Song of Ice and Fire...John and SeannieWan return for their 3rd Royal run of episodes. Herein layeth for thine pleasures of thy ear the most Royally newsworthy and Royally new news. Mayhaps tho hath heard already some of the Royal words to be spake by the Royal mouths, but from the vile tongues of peasants, plebeians, and men of the gutters. If this be so, then tho hath heard not the way these tidings were intended and tho wouldst be wise to use thine earholes to receive this Royal blessing.WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...This is a primer episode for the next great project from #TPTWP. But first the news...01:16:00 King in the North...05:55:00 First S.8 Footage12:29:00 The Reveal Date for The Reveal of the Date15:52:00 Dornish Red or Arbor Gold16:30:00 Pre-Production Non-News News17:55:00 E9: Thank You, NextIn preparation for the penultimate season of Game of Thrones, #TPTWP undertook a massive... undertaking. A complete re-watch of the series was documented, analyzed, and streamed via the interweb for loyal listeners. That official re-watch can be found in #TPTWP archives. The lead up for Game of Thrones: The Final Episodes will be approached in a different way... a more interesting and more accessible and far less complicated way... Royally intrigued? The first episode for The Princes That Were Promised Official Re-Education in the Main Characters of HBO's Game of Thrones and Their Stories will begin streaming this week. Stay tuned to the feed... or lose your head... not metaphorically... like The Promised Princes will cut off your head... and they will do it themselves because those who pass the sentence must swing the sword.The artwork for this episode was completely and totally used without any permission whatsoever. It is titled A Gift of Arbor Red and was created by Nicholas Gregory for Fantasy Flight Games which has a plethora of great ASoIaF/GoT artwork that we try very hard to not use anymore often than we do. Please do not tell Fantasy Flight or Nicholas Gregory that their fantastic works are being used for an audio streaming program, no matter how fantastic the audio streaming program may be.The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Join them as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2019 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
Breaking Wind... of Winter (Sp2.11)
On the eve of the release of... like... the 3rd major A Song of Ice and Fire publication since A Dance With Dragons that isn't titled "The Winds of Winter," #TPTWP find themselves struggling to identify a strange and uncomfortable feeling that overwhelms their Royal Persons re:ASoIaF. The Promised Princes sought out mental health professionals for help, and they did their own Royal Research into "Human Feelings" and "Human Emotions," so as to identify what this feeling was. The conclusion that the Royal Research and the Royal Mental Health Professionals both came to was that John and SeannieWan were no longer feeling Angry and/or Frustrated each time The Winds of Winter came to their Royal Minds, but instead they were suddenly and inexplicably feeling a feeling that most commonfolk call "Hope."Hope had never been a feeling that #TPTWP associated with The Winds of Winter... or George R. R. Martin... or A Song of Ice and Fire. Ergo... What gives???WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...John and SeannieWan discuss the very real possibility that their trolling of #GRRM may have been unnecessary and misinformed, albeit briefly is the adverb to describe the speed of their disussing, and brief is the discussion which they briefly discuss. Has HBO been the real reason/motivation behind the inconceivably long wait for Volume 6 of ASoIaF since the release of Volume 5? Has there actually been a reason for the wait all along other than The Great Procrastinator doing what he does best- Procrastinating? It's not TV... It's HBO*, but is it also why this professional writer has been unable to finish a professional project in nearly 8 years? If so, is it possible that #GRRM has been one step ahead of us the whole time? Not likely... probably not... but maybe... but most likely probably not...In the biggest twist in all of non-fiction since the Resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth, John does what the pro-wrestling fans "in the know" would call a "Face turn," and finds himself siding with The Great Procrastinator. In addition to all the "Hope" that The Promised Princes are feeling and discussing, John and SeannieWan put the pedal to the metal and discuss The Winds of Winter as though it were the ASoIaF being released next week instead of Fire and Blood.The Wardens of Long Island doth engage in a top-notch, professional-level-conversating conversation re:The Winds of Winter, and thus catch themselves up on the ASoIaF characters and storylines that will surely make up the narrative of The Winds of Winter. They also theorize as to where the narrative will go and how the cliffhangers of A Dance With Dragons will be resolved."Really really good stuff this episode!" - George R. R. Marlin (editor of Wild Cars)"#TPTWP have really done it this time!" - George R. R. Martington (author of The Gang of Throngs)"...truly this is a podcast... not... bad... good!"- Eli O. (content editor for Westernbros.org)Head's up! Possible SPOILERS for non-ASoIaF properties...7:30:00 - Possible spoilers for 'Avengers 4,' though highly unlikely.14:10:00 - Possible spoilers for 'Star Wars Episode IX,' though probably not.The tweet that began the hype which led to hope...Shortly before this episode was made available, news of Stan Lee's death at 95 years-old broke on every major news outlet.To say that Stan Lee and his imagination directly molded our preference and enjoyment in and of fiction would not be nearly enough to do justice to his imagination and his influence. To say that our own creativity is what it is because of those properties and ideas that Stan Lee created would be a shade of what should be said to honor how true that is. To say that the work Stan Lee did, along with the work he procured, developed, and distributed, has become or was the basis for all quality fictional media entertainment in 2018 and is truly enjoyed by millions and millions of people around the world would only scratch the surface of the legacy that he leaves behind...Excelsior!The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Join them as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
A Freaky Doctor, Record Emmy Wins, and Scary Spoilers... Maybe... (Sp2.10)
The Final Episodes of HBO's Game of Thrones feel like they arbe years away. The Royal Wait is growing worse than the wait for Season 6B of The Sopranos, but it beats waiting around for the "Book" that What's-His-Name claims to be writing (montly #GRRM-bashing quota met!).The Royal Mantra is to enjoy the wait for Season 8 because once it arrives, the series will be over before The Royal Realization comes. Essentially, this is the sweet spot- the time to feel good that The Final Episodes are in post-production and the only thing keeping them from The Royal Television is the time that will be filled with speculation and Royal Excitement...But what if there was a huge spoiler that has been whispered upon the lips of Redditors and YouTubers since the Season 7 finale aired? Wouldst tho open Pandora's Box?WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...John and SeannieWan temp fate and expose themselves to the huge POSSIBLE spoiler... maybe. John can't help himself and has been spoiling himself since the early 2000's. SeannieWan has a bit more self-control but can't pass an opportunity to have an edge in knowledge on non-book-readers.Before #TPTWP get themselves stuck in the spoiler-y muck and mud, they take a look at the phenomenal victories that HBO, David Benioff, D.B. Weiss, and the Game of Thrones production had at the 2018 Emmy Awards. Was The American Tolkien at the Emmys? Did he get a statue to take home to further distract him from the task at hand? Did the producers of the Emmy Awards do yet another funny "bit" where the host or a presenter points him out in the audience and the director of the Emmy Awards says, "Take Camera 4!" into his headset so that the live broadcast on whatever stupid network gives us a medium close-up of The Great Procrastinator grinning like someone that is in over his head as he slaps at a fake typewriter on his lap with the sausage fingers of his ham-hock hands?Maybe. #TPTWP didn't watch because the only thing worse than Senor Martin grinning like someone that is in over his head is Hollywood sticking their celebrity noses up each other's celebrity butts. But John and SeannieWan discuss the awards before they discuss possible spoilers... maybe... for The Final Episodes.If tho don't wisheth to hear thy spoilers... possible spoilers to be specific... maybe... be warned that spoiler talk begins at the 27:00-minute mark. Yakkity Sax, which was the great music during the chase scenes in The Benny Hill Show, will play as a final warning. If you continue to listen after Yakkity Sax, prepare to possibly be spoiled... maybe... But also prepare to experience intelligent, thoughtful, and entertaining conversation all about the possible spoilers... maybe...If you wish to check out the possible spoilers from the source of the possible spoilers, The Royal Link is Right the F' HERE.The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Join them as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listening!Support The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
The Mormonts You Know/ The Mormonts You Don't Know (208.2)
All of the Noble Houses of Westeros celebrate their own Lore- stories of heroic deeds by ancestors whose names are well-known not only by their descendants and vassals to their House but by nearly all Great and Noble Families throughout Westeros, as well as the smallfolk of The Realm. That is to say, all Noble Houses celebrate their Lore except House Mormont of the exceptionally boring Bear Island; a House which seems to have no Lore whatsoever. The Maesters and The Citadel have a difficult enough time to identify the patriarch of House Mormont even 2 generations past. They know that there were Mormonts in House Mormont because the history of Westeros retains events in which Mormonts belonging to House Mormont were involved. However, learning a name or any sort of personality trait to whichever Mormonts that certainly belonged to House Mormont that were a part of whatever history that Westeros history claims them to be a part of has proven to be far too difficult of a task for any of the "educated" population of Oldtown. While The Starks of Winterfell can be traced back thousands and thousands of years to The Age of Heroes, The Mormont family tree seems to go back only so far as Jeor Mormont... so like... 60-something years... albeit very incomplete for a 60-something year-old Family Tree. WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...Ser Jorah Mormont is the Westerosi character upon which The Promised Princes focus their research and discussion. However, Lord Commander Jeor Mormont of The Night's Watch, who is Ser Jorah's father, is also examined. So too then are the many Mormont women to whom Jeor is Father and/or Uncle, to whom Jorah is nephew and/or cousin, and allegedly whom the big-a## hairy Bears of Bear Island bring to "Mormont Makeout Point" at the top of "Makeout Hill" in the south-eastern woods and forests of Bear Island. John and SeannieWan pick up with The Mormont Family Tree... or lack thereof... and move along through Ser Jorah's narrative until the climax of A Game of Thrones and Ser Jorah's continuing struggles with childbirth. Also covered in conjunction- Robert's Rebellion, Ser Jorah's thoughts on The Crown Prince Rhaegar Targaryen, House Martell's loyalty to House Targaryen, The 4-1-1 on the Friendzone and at which point in his narrative Ser Jorah unwittingly began to back slowly into it. If you have not yet listened, it is advisable, though not completely necessary, to stream #TPTWP episode 15.1: Wood and Fish and Bears, Oh MyThis episode is important as the history of House Mormont's seat at Bear Island is covered and (possibly) [not likely] sheds a decent amount of metaphorical light upon many of the motivations and characteristics of both Ser Jorah and his disappointed father, Lord Commander Jeor Mormont, 'The Old Bear.'The artwork used as the cover art for this episode was created by digital artist Valeria Jortagul. The piece is titled Jeor Mormont and it features an absolutely dynamite portrait of The Old Bear holding Longclaw with a bear's head at the weapon's hilt instead of Jon Snow's iconic direwolf where the bear had once been, or where the bear is as it were within the timeline of the digital art, and Mormont's Raven upon his shoulder- a bird of dark wings that generaly carries dark words, or rather just repeats the same word over and over again. To enjoy more of Valeria Jortagul's digital artwork, including her beautiful portraits set in the fantasy genre, you can click the link Right the F HERE.The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Join them as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
Wood and Fish and Bears, Oh My (208.1)
What makes Bear Island, the seat of House Mormont, such a special place? Is it the endless amount of trees? No. Every keep and village in the North has trees. Is it the infinite fish that swim the waters surrounding Bear Island, there for the taking to feed the smallfolk? No. Fish are found in all the waters around The Known World. Is Bear Island special because of the tremendous amount of wood it produces? Surely wood is a resource that Bear Island can produce better than any other location in Westeros... No... Chopping down trees for wood is the most basic part of surviving in Westeros and again, there are trees everywhere. The beauty of nature and mankind in harmony is what makes Bear Island so special... Nope. Not at all. Bear Island is just a little island with a lot of trees, poor fishermen and their families.Bear Island is special and it stands out from the rest of Westeros because it is the most boring place to live in The Seven Kingdoms. Just ask the previous two Lords of Bear Island... if you can find them! They both abandoned their seat for certain death. WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...John and SeannieWan open a series on a character that may just be their favorite non-POV character- Ser Jorah Mormont, the exiled Lord of Bear Island. If anybody has been put through the ringer more times than Tyrion Lannister, it is his good buddy, Ser Jorah... Captain Friendzone!As with any ASoIaF/GoT character #TPTWP cover, some backstory and history are required to really understand the decisions and actions of Ser Jorah Mormont. The Wardens of Long Island begin by examining the... history...? of Bear Island. Why do people live there? Why is it the seat of House Mormont? How did they arrive on Bear Island? Who ruled the boring sh@@@y island before the Mormonts? What is the deal with the Bears? #TPTWP attempt to answer all these questions and more. The artwork for this episode is aptly titled Bear Island and was created by Dino Drawing for Fantasy Flight Games. The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Every week they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
Chit-Chat-Mania, Brother! (Sp2.9)
The Lords of Chit-Chat talk Hulk Hogan, Tony Schiavone, Conrad Thompson, and professional wrestling as they continue their world championship run of analyzing HBO's #GoT news during this current extended period of time when there really is no #GoT news to analyze; and, as it pertains to the normal content of #TPTWP Podcast, plain ol' irregular conversation.WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...John attempts to tell SeannieWan about a funny remark he heard on the What Happened When? wrestling podcast and the attempt turns into a pretty F'n long and consistently entertaining conversation about WWE past and present. (Note: The Princes That Were Promised cannot talk about professional wrestling or WWE without giving a chair-shot out to the best weekly wrestling review podcast on the entirety of the Internet, whose hosts happen to be the "smarkiest smarks" of the entire IWC {Internet Wrestling Community for those "non-marks" (basically "smarky smarks," "smarky marks," "marks," and obviously "smarks" are the pro-wrestling fans that used to chant "CM Punk!" at live events whenever a bad match took place and now chant "Rusev Day!" for the same reason}- Wishful Booking. If you enjoy our brief conversation about professional wrestling, you will lose your mind listening to theirs; and if you are a regular viewer of WWE and any of its brands, you should know that The Wishful Booking Wresling Pocast is to weekly pro-wrestling programming what #TPTWP is to Game of Thrones and A Song of Ice and Fire.)#TPTWP bring the chit-chat back to The Final Episodes and the most anticipated reunions between the remaining #GoT characters. #TLoCC take a good look at supposed plot outline leaks for The Final Episodes and John makes a case for a small portion of them actually being true... maybe... probably not... POSSIBLE SPOILERS for The Final Episodes of Game of Thrones occur around the 34-minute mark and last until just about the 42-minute mark.The music featured in this episode is Yakkety-Sax, as heard on The Benny Hill Show, and Game of Thrones Main Title Theme, by Ramin Djawadi as adapted by... somebody... as an 8-bit video game theme.The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Join their Royal Persons as they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
Disney Star Wars Means to Murder... (Sp2.8)
As it was during the difficult years of their Royal puberty, John and SeannieWan had heard the ridiculous talk among those that knew little to nothing of things that were important. It was the talk by these uneducated acquaintances that created rumors of sequels to the Star Wars Trilogy... rumors that somehow reached the frozen dead ears of Walt Disney as he layeth in purgatory and awaiting the technology to return his black soul to the Earth.When word of the prequels reached the Royal ears of thy Promised Princes, 'safe' was what they considered the beautiful story told in the 'Original Trilogy' as it could not be cheapened by sequels.'Twas the Apocalyptic Beast of Orlando- the avatar of the Dark Lord of Hollywood Yesteryear, a rodent disguised as an American Icon- that was woken by the impatient and impossible expectations of American moviegoers that were 'failed' by the 'Prequel Trilogy.' And yay did the Rodent Beast of Excess grow in power as the disappointment in the Prequels strengthened the misunderstood nostalgia the idiots of the world believed they felt for the 'Original Trilogy.'When the monsters created by 'The Matrix' and 'Shrek' had run George Lucas out of Hollywood, the slithering serpent hybrid of Mouse and American Greed rose from the rotted underbelly of corporate America and did then swallow up the souls of George Lucas and those that truly loved his story.WARNING! FOR HERE BE SPOILERS!!!SPOILERS INDEED ARE ALWAYS POSSIBLE FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones... AND ON THIS DAY, SPOILERS ABOUND FOR The Star Wars Trilogy, The Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, The Star Wars Anthology films, and all associated media considered canon by Walt Disney's frozen, yet likely active brain...Born amidst salt and smoke- In a Galaxy Far, Far Away- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...It would have been too easy for #TPTWP to spend an hour destroying 'Solo: A Star Wars Story' and mocking the efforts put into the film. Even easier would it have been for John and SeannieWan to say 'We told you so' and remind the Royal listeners that they spoke many times of how bad an idea a Han Solo prequel film would be and how it would easily destroy the franchise in its current state.So instead, The Lords of Chit-Chat together forge the ultimate Chat RE: Disney Star Wars and the disconnect it has with Star Wars.'Solo,' 'The Last Jedi,' the announced Star Wars Anthology films that have since been shelved, Kathleen Kennedy, The Little Dark Lord Rian Johnson, the horrible people on Instagram that are not really lovers of Star Wars, the effects that bad decisions have on 'The Force Awakens,' Billy Dee Williams, The Great Creator George Lucas, and the business end of the Disney-Lucasfilm deal are all on the Lordly Table of Chat.Listen, enjoy, learn, and tell Kathleen Kennedy that she is causing you to feel dark and empty when you think of your childhood.Whatever you do, however, do not for a moment think that any actor or artist working with a script for a Disney Star Wars movie has any input in The Rodent Beast's campaign to devour your happiness.Perhaps some music will be heard in this episode, or perhaps not. If music was to be heard likely it would be Duel of the Fates written by the greatest of all time, John Williams, for Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. However, this adaptation of Duel of the Fates would be performed by the utterly amazing Galactic Empire. You can find Galactic Empire right the F' HERE. Subscribe to them and kiss a few hours of your life goodbye as you go through their entire catalog. The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Every week they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitchrGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookRead The Westerosi Companion for scholarly essays and in-depth reviews.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
The Night Has Been Fairly Dark, Thank You For Asking (Sp2.7)
SPOILERS!!!FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...The Princes That Were Promised chime in with their Royal-A** opinions of the Game of Thrones prequel shows that are seemingly all in production! What happened?!?It has a bit to do with HBO's new owners- America OnLine!What? Yup. AOL. Well... TimeWarner technically but there is no AOL in AOLTimeWarner without America OnLine... or AOL.Question 1- Does anybody use AOL?Question 2- How does that qualify AOL to operate a Premium Cable Network? Not just any premium cable network but THE Premium of Premium Cable Networks, HBO.Lots of corporations, lots of letters, lots of Westeros... and in the center of it all- The Great Procrastonist, The American Tolkien, The Turtle himself: Mr. George R. R. Martin.What in the Seven Hells is going on? #TPTWP try to figure it all out.Also, James is an amazing band.Also, Kit Harrington is a great actor.Also, we comment on the #MeToo movement, though prior to the James Gunn situation... which sucks.The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Every week they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsStitcherGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookVisit The Westerosi Companion to read #TPTWP's scholarly essays.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
Living and Dying In Westeros Lite (207)
Herein layeth the Official Royal predictions, or perhaps the Royally Official predictions, of #TPTWP re: the fate of the remaining characters going into Season 8 of HBO's 'Game of Thrones.' Join John and SeannieWan as they make officially official which characters of Westeros Lite will still be among the fictional living at the end of Season 8 and which characters will be dead both fictionally and never really lived non-fictionally. SPOILERS!!!FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...This episode will be the record as it has been recorded and likely released before any legit spoilers for The Final Episodes have reached the Interweb. Ergo, vis a vis, this episode will be fun to return to towards the end of 2019 when The Final Episodes have finished airing. Will John and SeannieWan be correct when all is said and done? Obviously. In addition to the Royally Bold predictions, The Princes That Were Promised speak to the latest non-spoiler news, and attempt to make sense of the twitter feeds from the poor bastards that seem to live outside the King's Landing set. There is also a Royal acknowledgment that #TPTWP's most daring theory was incorrect... George R. R. Martin, as it turns out, does not put on a fake beard and become Gardner Dozois so that he can edit short story collections without being bothered about The Son of Kong. All that and more as The Watchers On The Couch return to Westeros Lite.The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Every week they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsStitcherGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookVisit The Westerosi Companion to read #TPTWP's scholarly essays.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
A Catelyn of Swords (206.3)
SPOILERS!!!FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...Be it in bad taste to say that Catelyn Stark's narrative in #ASoIaF comes to a screeching halt?Mayhaps you feel it is if you are a big fan of Lady Catelyn. However, if you are a big fan of Lady Catelyn, this is likely not a podcast you will enjoy listening to. That said, has anyone really gone on record saying that Catelyn Stark is their favorite character from A Song of Ice and Fire or Game of Thrones? Not bloody likely.#TPTWP pick up where Catelyn left off with the irreparable damage caused by her not-well-thought-out decision to release The Kingslayer from Riverrun's dungeons. From there, the piss-poor decision-making seems to migrate from Lady Catelyn to her suddenly clueless son, King Robb, who somehow blanks on the lifetime of lessons he learned from his wise father during three or four key moments in A Storm of Swords; moments that ultimately lead to the downfall of not only him, his dingbat mother, and his ancient House, but also hundreds of thousands of Northmen and Rivermen who were gullible enough to bend the knee to a sixteen-year-old boy and his overzealous mom.Kick back, grab a beverage, and shake your head in frustration along with John and SeannieWan as they dive deep into the Catelyn Stark narrative from A Storm of Swords and keep it as painless as recounting Catelyn Stark's decisions can possibly be.The beautifully detailed cover art for A Catelyn of Swords is titled A Price of Honour. The artist is Nejna Jasna and more of her professional, exceptional work can be found on her home page, which by the way, is located right the F HERE.The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Every week they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsStitcherGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Westerosi Companion and read #TPTWP's scholarly essays.Rendezvous in secret with The Master of Whispersand learn what the little birds have to say. Bend the Knee to #TPTWP on Facebook and pledge your loyalty.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

A Catelyn of Swords (206.3)

2018-05-2401:40:141

A Catelyn of Kings (206.2)
SPOILERS!!!FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...Catelyn Stark made some key decisions during the first volume of ASoIaF. These decisions brought not just her House and her family to the brink of war and then beyond, but they also worked to tear apart the seems that were holding the Realm together. Each successive choice she made within A Game of Thrones acted as a small rock bouncing down a metaphorical mountainside packed with deadly boulders. It was these boulders that were loosed into an avalanche that fell upon The Seven Kingdoms in the form of a horrible and violent Civil War.In A Clash of Kings, Catelyn Stark does not fool us as easily, but she does try. The Worst Lady of Winterfell in the history of The North takes a much more passive approach to decision-making in the second volume of ASoIaF. More is the pity, as it seems most all of the choices that she makes in ACoK are insignificant.If there is one thing that John and SeannieWan have learned in their dealings with Lady Cat, it is that she is the 'Worst,' and despite her decision-making dormancy for the majority of A Clash of Kings, The Lady of Winterfell more than makes up for it with a doooooozy that not only drastically changes the fortunes and options for House Stark, Tully, Umber, Mallister, Bracken, Blackwood, Karstark, Vance, Piper, Manderly, Glover, and every other loyal House in The North and The Riverlands, but also leads The Wardens of Long Island to conclude that Catelyn Stark hadn't so much learned her lesson from the ramifications of her poor decision-making as she was waiting and gearing herself up for the Mother of All Bad Decisions. The cover art for this episode of #TPTWP is titled Cat n Brienne. It was created by artist Joe Harty and more of his colorful and animated pieces, many within the fantasy genre and ASoIaF specifically, can be found on his website... which just so happens to be right the F HERE.The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Every week they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsStitcherGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookVisit The Westerosi Companion to read #TPTWP's scholarly essays.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

A Catelyn of Kings (206.2)

2018-05-1601:22:09

A Catelyn of Thrones (206.1)
SPOILERS!!!FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...The Promised Princes are The Wardens of Long Island. The Wardens of Long Island know a whole lot about Westeros and the people that make up the nobility of Westeros. In particular, The Wardens of Long Island- John and SeannieWan- are quite accustomed to the personalities of the Stark family of Winterfell. Of the Stark family, there are a few characters that The Princes That Were Promised, The Wardens of Long Island, do not care for. Of these characters that John and SeannieWan do not care for, there is one that is a complete and total Jerk. This complete and total Jerk has a name. Her name is Catelyn Stark. One of #TPTWP outright refuses to recognize Lady Catelyn as a Stark and instead identifies her by her maiden name- Catelyn Tully, Jerk Daughter of House Tully.In A Catelyn of Thrones, The Wardens of Long Island follow Catelyn's narrative through A Game of Thrones and expose each decision she makes in the guise of the family's best interest but in the true interest of Catelyn while flying the metaphorical flag of Stupidity.If there was a House Dumb-Idiot of StupieLand, the matriarch would be Catelyn Stark (or Tully, as it were) and the sigil for House Dumb-Idiot would be a crude depiction of the synapses in Catelyn's brain lighting up as she takes advantage of a situation to further her personal agenda of escaping from the North and stumbling into her own circle of power in the South.#TPTWP easily point out each and every selfish, dimwitted decision the Lady of Winterfell makes while bringing to light the exponential growth of collateral damage and harm to the Starks, Tullys, noble Houses of the Riverlands, and noble Houses of The North that these selfish, dimwitted decisions bring about.Is Catelyn Stark more a harbinger of death than Kara Thrace? Does Catelyn spend any time considering the consequences of her actions? Are Catelyn's actions those of the young lady that John and SeannieWan discussed in the previous episode? Did Ned ever have a moment of clarity in which he spat upon the stone likeness of his dead father- the man that set up the doomed marriage pact for Ned's imbecile older brother and the very same marriage pact that would fall into Ned's lap? Is Catelyn Stark worthy of the name Stark? Was House Tully doomed from the moment Lady Catelyn emerged from Minisa Whent's birth canal? Was Catelyn plotting her opportunity in A Game of Thrones from the first inhalation she made of the fresh air found in the atmosphere surrounding Riverrun?Yes. No. Possibly. Likely. No. Yes. Probably.For more in-depth and complex answers to these surprisingly simple questions, as well as a whole lot of fun going deep on the biggest antagonist in A Game of Thrones, who is totes presented as a 'protagonist' by The American Tolkien Turtle-Man, tho best giveth a listen to this Super-Sized episode.The artwork for A Catelyn of Thrones, is titled Lady Catelyn Stark. It was created by Minor Technicality. More of their detailed and intriguing work can be found right the F HERE.The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Every week they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsStitcherGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubeCastBox.FMPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookVisit The Westerosi Companion to read #TPTWP's scholarly essays.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
Wait... Tywin and Hoster Did What??? (205.3)
SPOILERS!!!FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star...The Princes That Were Promised make a pit stop on the Catelyn Stark Memorial Highway- a (fake) highway with tolls every 20 yards, as well as poorly engineered tressels and footbridges that are built so low the tops of SUVs are damaged and 20 car pile-ups occur daily. Before the events of ASoIaF and shortly after a 12-year-old Catelyn Tully was promised to Brandon Stark of Winterfell, Hoster Tully, The Lord of Riverrun and Lord Paramount of the Riverlands, negotiated another marriage pact with Tywin Lannister, The Lord of Casterly Rock and Warden of the West. This marriage would have been more lucrative for Hoster than the shipment of his eldest daughter to the cold, hard North. However, the marriage seems as though it would be beneath the son and heir to Tywin Lannister. Jaime Lannister, before he was a knight of The Kingsguard, was very nearly promised to Lysa Tully, the second, and possibly stupider, and definitely crazier daughter of Lord Hoster. John and SeannieWan muse on the reasons why Lord Tywin, at the time The Hand to the King, would have even entertained the notion, let alone pulled the trigger. If not for Aerys Targaryen, as far as the information available, Lysa Tully would have become Lysa Lannister and The Lady of Casterly Rock. This would have been like... really horrible and probably gross and depressing for Ser Jaime (#PukeCityMayorJaimeLannister). If Aerys Targaryen prevented this marriage from happening... why would Ser Jaime slay him?The artwork for this episode was created by Regendy. More of her bright and cheery work can be found right the F HERE. Drop by her page and check out her uplifting works. The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Every week they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsStitcherGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubePlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookVisit The Westerosi Companion to read #TPTWP's scholarly essays.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastlicensed through Creative Commonscopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
Teach Your Children Well, Hoster Tully! (205.2)
SPOILERS!!!FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star......and so The Princes That Were Promised journey down a familiar road full of rage upon which the fine line between the necessity for foolishness to move forward the story and the awe at the finely written thoughtlessness of one noble lady, in particular, is razor-sharp.Yes, John has been waiting for this episode almost as long as he has been waiting for The Winds of Winter.A deep analysis of Catelyn Stark has been a royally gestating idea since the beginning of #TPTWP. It was a joke until it wasn't.In the first part of Hook, Line, and Sinker, The Wardens of Long Island cover all the bases. The history of The Riverlands is kept brief and the lead-up to the rule of House Tully as Lords Paramount of the Trident is explained with the hopes of shedding light on the dark crevices and recesses that make up the analytical mind of The Lady of Winterfell- Catelyn Tully Stark.In Part 2, that generation of Tully that is over like The Beatles is looked at through the magnifying glass of judgement. The rule of Hoster Tully, his relationship with his brother The Blackfish, and the childhood of his children is dissected as The Princes That Were Promised gear up for the rollercoaster that is the narrative of Catelyn. The artwork for this episode is titled Hoster Tully and was created by artist Matthew Klaas deWitte. His outstanding fantasy artwork can be found right the F HEREThe Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Every week they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsStitcherGooglePlaySoundCloudPlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookVisit The Westerosi Companion to read #TPTWP's scholarly essays.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
Hook, Line, and Sinker (205.1)
SPOILERS!!!FOR ALL PUBLISHED BOOKS IN #GRRM'S A Song of Ice and Fire AS WELL AS ALL TELEVISED EPISODES OF HBO'S Game of Thrones...Born amidst salt and smoke- Just off the Long Island Expressway- Beneath a bleeding star......and so The Princes That Were Promised journey down a familiar road full of rage upon which the fine line between the necessity for foolishness to move forward the story and the awe at the finely written thoughtlessness of one noble lady, in particular, is razor-sharp. Yes, John has been waiting for this episode almost as long as he has been waiting for The Winds of Winter. A deep analysis of Catelyn Stark has been a royally gestating idea since the beginning of #TPTWP. It was a joke until it wasn't. In the first part of Hook, Line, and Sinker, The Wardens of Long Island cover all the bases. The history of The Riverlands is kept brief and the lead-up to the rule of House Tully as Lords Paramount of the Trident is explained with the hopes of shedding light on the dark crevices and recesses that make up the analytical mind of The Lady of Winterfell- Catelyn Tully Stark.The artwork featured for this episode is titled The Fall of Harrenhal by Rene Aigner. More of his amazing work can be found right the F HERE.The Princes That Were Promised are John and SeannieWan. Every week they tear apart Westeros and sift through the pieces to bring their Leal and Loyal Subjects the history of the Realm and The Known World from both George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's adaptation, Game of Thrones. You can subscribe to the podcast and show fealty at:Apple PodcastsStitcherGooglePlaySoundCloudYouTubePlease take a few minutes to leave a review so others can find #TPTWP as well!!!Visit The Red Keep and The RavenryBend the Knee and Like #TPTWP on FacebookVisit The Westerosi Companion to read #TPTWP's scholarly essays.The Princes That Were Promised is an ActionPacked!Podcastcopyright 2016-2018 ActionPacked!ProductionsPrepared and Performed by John Khantzian and SeannieWan KenobiProduced by Sean Block with John KhantzianEdited by Sean BlockThank you for listeningSupport The Princes That Were Promised by donating to the tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-princes-that-were-promisedFind out more on the The Princes That Were Promised website.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
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