This episode begins with the meditation Built to Last, Not to Impress - a reflection on the pull between wanting to grow fast and the discipline to build slow. Don explores how real leadership isn’t about scaling quickly but about honoring each step and building foundations that endure.

Joining him is Dr. Bruce Main, founder and president of UrbanPromise, whose life’s work has embodied that very idea. From one summer camp in Camden, New Jersey, to a global network reaching across continents, Bruce has spent more than three decades building people, not just programs. Together, he and Don reflect on the tension between ambition and patience, the lessons learned from failure, and the deep satisfaction of creating something that lasts long after your name fades from it.

A conversation about wisdom, humility, and the quiet strength behind sustainable leadership.

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