CMP 066 – The Prehospitalist
Update: 2022-04-25
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Into LIndsey “ The PreHosptialist”
Narcan - recap what narcan is
“Myth” of narcan-induced combativeness: anecdotal topic
How EMS providers are often the root cause of post-narcan agitation
Goal is to titrate narcan to adequate respirations, but in a world where everyone has 2-8mg narcan, EMS often arrives to a waking patient
Ways to not suck so bad:
Avoid swarming patients as they start to arouseAvoid immediately asking “what did you take?”Avoid offensiveness when patients deny drug useAvoid prophylactic restraints in anticipation of combativenessAvoid judgemental words, tone, nonverbalsRemember dogs, children and patients all have the following in common: they feed off our energy and mimic it
Other causes of agitation: hypoxia, hypercapnia
**ventilation/oxygenation prior to waking = happier awake patient**
Dosing extremes:
Some places: volume so high, not realistic to titrate and transport every OD
Other places: 0.04 mg IV titrated to respirations
Leaving patients after waking from Narcan: low-risk
“Numerous studies have evaluated the safety of patient refusal after naloxone resuscitation and have found extremely low mortality rates, ranging from 0-0.48% in the 24-28 hours after refusal [1-7]. In these studies, patients who passed the EMS system’s refusal criteria were allowed to decline transport to the hospital.”
Pulmonary edema super rare
Support:
Leaving narcan with patient
Addiction resources
Suboxone
http://frn.deals/pa
https://www.primaryarms.com/expo-arms-uppers
Into LIndsey “ The PreHosptialist”
Narcan - recap what narcan is
“Myth” of narcan-induced combativeness: anecdotal topic
How EMS providers are often the root cause of post-narcan agitation
Goal is to titrate narcan to adequate respirations, but in a world where everyone has 2-8mg narcan, EMS often arrives to a waking patient
Ways to not suck so bad:
Avoid swarming patients as they start to arouseAvoid immediately asking “what did you take?”Avoid offensiveness when patients deny drug useAvoid prophylactic restraints in anticipation of combativenessAvoid judgemental words, tone, nonverbalsRemember dogs, children and patients all have the following in common: they feed off our energy and mimic it
Other causes of agitation: hypoxia, hypercapnia
**ventilation/oxygenation prior to waking = happier awake patient**
Dosing extremes:
Some places: volume so high, not realistic to titrate and transport every OD
Other places: 0.04 mg IV titrated to respirations
Leaving patients after waking from Narcan: low-risk
“Numerous studies have evaluated the safety of patient refusal after naloxone resuscitation and have found extremely low mortality rates, ranging from 0-0.48% in the 24-28 hours after refusal [1-7]. In these studies, patients who passed the EMS system’s refusal criteria were allowed to decline transport to the hospital.”
Pulmonary edema super rare
Support:
Leaving narcan with patient
Addiction resources
Suboxone
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