In this episode, we continue our conversation with Martin Perron, a lawyer and developer at the Government of Canada, about how Rules as Code can transform the way we understand and use law.

Martin explains how encoding legislation can help identify gaps, run simulations, and even power trustworthy government chatbots. He reflects on the promise of democratizing access to legal knowledge, shares concrete examples of how businesses and citizens could benefit, and offers practical ways for listeners to get involved in this emerging field.

What difference does it make to encode laws instead of just writing them? How can this improve access to justice? And how can people from different backgrounds—law, tech, or beyond—contribute to the movement? Join us as we unpack these questions and more.

🧠 Topics Covered:

• ⚖️ Using Rules as Code as a drafting and evaluation tool in Canada
• 💻 The Access to Information Act modernization project
• 🔍 How encoding rules can cut costs and speed up access to justice
• 🏛️ Global developments: Canada, France, Australia, New Zealand, and beyond
• 🌍 Democratizing legal knowledge for citizens and businesses
• 🎓 How students, technologists, and legal experts can contribute

🧑‍🏫 About the Guest:

Martin Perron is a lawyer and developer with the Government of Canada, where he works on Rules as Code and legal automation initiatives. His projects focus on building trustworthy applications that improve access to justice, streamline legal processes, and explore the intersection of law, technology, and AI.

🖱️ Resources & Links:

• Rules as Code Guild: https://rulesascode.org
• OpenFisca Community: https://openfisca.org
• Georgetown University’s Rules as Code team: https://www.georgetown.edu
• Donate to support Just Access: https://just-access.de/donate

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