In this episode, we speak with Martin Perron, a lawyer and developer at the Government of Canada, about his unconventional path from law school to leading-edge work on Rules as Code.

They explore how coding and law can be combined to make legislation clearer, more accessible, and more trustworthy. Martin also reflects on the potential of neuro-symbolic AI in legal applications and offers candid advice for students and young professionals navigating diverse interests.

What does Rules as Code actually mean in practice? How can encoding legislation improve public understanding of complex legal obligations? And what can Martin’s story teach us about building unique expertise across disciplines? Join us as we unpack these questions and more.

🧠 Topics Covered:

• ⚖️ Martin’s journey from law student to lawyer-developer
• 💻 What Rules as Code is and why it matters
• 🧠 Neuro-symbolic AI and legal reasoning
• 🔍 How coding can make laws clearer and easier to navigate
• 🎓 Practical advice for students exploring multiple career paths

🧑‍🏫 About the Guest:

Martin Perron is a lawyer and developer with the Government of Canada, where he leads work on Rules as Code and hybrid neuro-symbolic AI initiatives. His projects focus on building trustworthy legal automation, simulation, and verification applications to improve access to justice.

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