In a heartfelt and personal conversation, Dave interviews acclaimed chef Jeremy Fox (0:50 ) about his new book, ‘On Meat,’ and his incredible, culinary-world-impacting restaurant Ubuntu, as well as the challenges of being in the restaurant world today. They discuss creativity (35:02 ), the evolution of the chef industry, and what they have learned over their long careers. To close the podcast, Dave makes two easy home versions of pan pizza (52:53 ).

Get your copy of Jeremy Fox's On Meat: https://bookshop.org/p/books/on-meat-modern-recipes-for-the-home-kitchen-jeremy-fox/761f4f9473f0d92f?ean=9781837290864&next=t 

Get your copy of Jeremy Fox's On Vegetables: https://bookshop.org/p/books/on-vegetables-modern-recipes-for-the-home-kitchen-jeremy-fox/720be6559d3afd38?ean=9780714873909&next=t 

Learn more about Birdie G's: https://www.birdiegsla.com/about/ 

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Listen to our previous episode with Jeremy: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7q5OmeGiUgxC05at8OmhQg 

Learn more about Manresa: https://www.ritualatmanresa.com/ 

Watch our previous episode with Sean Gray of Sergeantsville Inn: https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/the-dave-chang-show/2025/01/30/the-romantic-ideal-of-a-restaurant-with-sean-gray 

Learn more about Agnes and Sherman: https://www.agnesandsherman.com/ 

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Learn more about Claud: https://www.claudnyc.com/ 

Listen to Velvet Underground's White Light / White Heat album: https://open.spotify.com/album/554JkhGvfj3IvlSyTaFQJB?si=OTngrsKDT7Wv0-vQ__NgJA 

Learn more about Mugaritz: https://www.mugaritz.com/en/ 

Learn more about Blue Hill at Stone Barns: https://www.bluehillfarm.com/ 

Get your copy of Vegetables by Great French Chefs: https://www.rizzoliusa.com/buy-online/9782080301253/ 

Learn more about Fig: https://eatatfig.com/ 

Learn more about Le Bernadin: https://www.le-bernardin.com/ 

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Host: Dave Chang

Guest: Jeremy Fox

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Stefano Sanchez

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