What do fried pepperoni with rice, crunchy instant noodles “cooked” on a dorm-room hot plate, and accidentally eating a whole artichoke leaf have in common? They’re all part of Chef Roy Yamaguchi’s origin story. In this episode, Spike Mendelsohn sits down with the godfather of Hawaiian Regional Cuisine to talk about growing up on a military base in Japan, finding his way to the CIA, getting fired (a lot), and eventually building a global empire of restaurants flavored with aloha. Expect sauce talk that borders on therapy, plenty of laughs, and a reminder that even legends start out in the weeds.

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