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Co-CEOs, No Managers, and Zero Loyalty — How to Navigate “Work 2.0”

Co-CEOs, No Managers, and Zero Loyalty — How to Navigate “Work 2.0”

Update: 2025-11-03
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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the demise of the traditional corporate structure—from co-CEOs, to the elimination of middle managers, and even the death of workplace loyalty. It seems like everything we know about the way companies are organized are changing, so what does this mean for you?


00:00 Intro


01:43 What’s unique about this moment in time for workplaces


04:36 A possible explanation for why these company structures keep changing


07:46 The AT&T memo and how workplace loyalty has changed


13:18 So what comes next for corporate structures?


14:25 “The Dead Economy Theory” 


17:08 The example of Zappos’ “holacracy” 


22:38 What you can do to brace yourself in this evolving landscape


This episode was sponsored by Superhuman.  You can check out Superhuman today at superhuman.com/podcast


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Co-CEOs, No Managers, and Zero Loyalty — How to Navigate “Work 2.0”

Co-CEOs, No Managers, and Zero Loyalty — How to Navigate “Work 2.0”

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