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Curative Kink: Understanding the Intersection of Arousal, Shame, and Healing

Curative Kink: Understanding the Intersection of Arousal, Shame, and Healing

Update: 2025-09-12
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Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault, sexual trauma, and BDSM. Listener discretion is advised.


On this week's episode, Dr. Debra sits down with renowned trauma specialist Andrew Pari, a licensed clinical social worker dedicated to helping survivors of sexual trauma.


This episode explores some of the most misunderstood aspects of trauma recovery...


Curative Kink: Andrew introduces his pioneering therapeutic approach that uses role play and BDSM elements in a safe, negotiated environment to help clients gain mastery over their trauma.


The Body's Response to Trauma: The conversation addresses the physiological phenomenon of arousal during sexual assault, explaining why it is a normal, evolutionary response and not a sign of consent. Andrew shares his experience as one of the first people to publicly discuss this topic over a decade ago.


Repetition Compulsion: Learn about why people unconsciously replay their trauma and how Andrew's methods help to transform these maladaptive patterns into a path for healing.


A Message of Hope

Andrew concludes the episode with a powerful message for anyone seeking healing, emphasizing the importance of leaning into fear and finding the right guide to support your journey.


🔗 Connect with Andrew Pari

Website: www.saawareness.com⁠

LinkedIn: ⁠Andrew Pari


🔗 Learn more & register for SCRIPT Conference: thescriptconference.com


Check out the book Andrew mentioned: Come As You Are by Emily Nagoski


Visit MenHealing at: ⁠www.menhealing.org

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Curative Kink: Understanding the Intersection of Arousal, Shame, and Healing

Curative Kink: Understanding the Intersection of Arousal, Shame, and Healing

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