Dave Smith is for Trump. Jacob Grier is for Harris. David Stockman says we're screwed either way.

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Is this the most important election ever? And who should win? Just asking questions.

Next week, America decides: elect the 78-year-old criminally indicted, twice-impeached ex-president who's pledged to impose a universal tariff of 20 percent and embark on the largest mass deportation in American history; or his opponent, the vice president, swapped in for a malfunctioning Joe Biden, whose first major policy proposal was to cap grocery store prices to fight inflation, and who has trouble explaining how she'd govern any differently than her increasingly unpopular predecessor. It's a close race.

Independents, including libertarians, will likely decide it.

So we've invited three of them on today with three different perspectives to explain their votes. The first is David Stockman. He's the former director of the Office of Budget Management under Ronald Reagan. He served as a U.S. representative, and he says whoever wins we're basically screwed because neither candidate is addressing the most important policy issues facing America today.

Then we'll talk to Dave Smith, a repeat guest on the show, host of the popular Part of the Problem podcast. He says he's reluctantly and probably voting for Trump because of the threat that Kamala Harris—and the political machine that she represents—poses to liberty in America.

And lastly, we'll talk with Jacob Grier, a writer and Reason contributor who says that from a libertarian and small government perspective, the choice is obvious. Donald Trump is an authoritarian threat and Kamala Harris is a far superior choice.

Let's just ask each of them some questions.

Sources Referenced:
David Stockman at The Soho Forum: Are the Two Parties Any Different? https://reason.com/podcast/2024/09/20/are-the-two-parties-any-different/
Dave Smith: I'm Voting For Trump | Part Of The Problem https://youtu.be/yyUsJnbUlxQ
Just Asking Questions with Ford Fischer: What's the Untold Story Behind 'Stop the Steal'? https://youtu.be/ynq-EHI2Nds
Just Asking Questions with Vivek Ramaswamy: Is There a Libertarian-Nationalist Alliance? https://youtu.be/NonvV2Hc7h0
Jacob Grier: To My Fellow Libertarians: It's Time to Embrace the Harris-Walz Ticket https://www.liberalcurrents.com/to-my-fellow-libertarians-its-time-to-embrace-the-harris-walz-ticket/
How Are Reason Staffers Voting in 2024? https://reason.com/2024/10/17/how-are-reason-staffers-voting-in-2024/

Chapters:
00:00 Coming up…
00:39 Introduction
02:50 David Stockman: Harris and Trump are both intolerable
35:15 Dave Smith: Voting against Harris
01:19:28 Jacob Grier: Voting against Trump