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Dean Spears & Michael Geruso on Why We Need More People

Dean Spears & Michael Geruso on Why We Need More People

Update: 2025-07-05
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Dean Spears and Michael Geruso are economists, demographers, and associate professors at the University of Texas at Austin. Their book After the Spike: Population, Progress, and the Case for People is out on July 8, 2025.


In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk, Dean Spears and Michael Geruso explore whether a higher population really impacts climate change, why more people on the planet means more geniuses, and how we can avoid depopulation.




Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay.


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Dean Spears & Michael Geruso on Why We Need More People

Dean Spears & Michael Geruso on Why We Need More People

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