Jay Springett leads writer and social thinker Dougald Hine through a series of imaginative exercises.

Then they discuss:

* How the internet came in like a tide

* The importance of attention and presence

* The significance of writing by hand and its impact on self-expression and communication

* The power of conversation and its ability to shape and influence ideas and more

Experience.Computer is a slow radio show about high tech. Exploring aphantasia, creativity, and the imagination.

QUOTES

“And then you said symbolism and suddenly my attention was completely pivoted away from that towards something more abstract”

“So there are two ways of using language. We can use it to word the world, which is to attempt to create a sort of descriptive layer above the world that tells us how things really are, or we can use words to world, the world, which is treating language as something that's part of, and acts within the world.”

“There's a danger of the written word because it can't explain itself, because it is context less.”

ABOUT THE GUEST

Dougald Hine is a social thinker, writer and speaker. After an early career as a BBC journalist, he co-founded organisations including the Dark Mountain Project and a school called HOME. He has collaborated with scientists, artists and activists, serving as a leader of artistic development at Riksteatern (Sweden’s national theatre) and as an associate of the Centre for Environment and Development Studies at Uppsala University. His latest book is At Work in the Ruins: Finding Our Place in the Time of Science, Climate Change, Pandemics & All the Other Emergencies (2023). He co-hosts The Great Humbling podcast and publishes a Substack called Writing Home.

IN YOUR MIND

Has this interview sparked any thoughts or questions about your own mind's eye, creative process, or inner experience? I'd love to hear your insights! Share your reflections in the comments below or on social media!

LINKS

* Dougald On Substack

* Dougald’s Website

* Buy At Work in the Ruin

* The Great Humbling Podcast

* A School Called Home

* Read more about Dougald on Wikipedia

ABOUT THE SHOW

In 2022 writer and host Jay Springett discovered he had aphantasia - the inability to voluntarily create mental images in one's mind. For 36 years he thought 'picture this' was a metaphor.

Experience.Computer is slow radio about high tech. An interview show exploring perception, experience and expression. The show examines how people perceive the world, and how they work with the creative tools they use to make their work with.

ABOUT THE HOST

Jay Springett is a strategist and writer. His work focuses on the design, administration and flourishing of worlds of all kinds He has hosted the 301 second long essay podcast Permanently Moved since 2018, and Experience.Computer since 2023. Jay is currently working on his first book ‘The Web Was a Side Quest‘ and writes online at thejaymo.net

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