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EP. 172 - ‘Creating the Community You Wish Existed’ with Cat MacLeod

EP. 172 - ‘Creating the Community You Wish Existed’ with Cat MacLeod

Update: 2025-06-11
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This week, I’m joined once again by the brilliant Cat MacLeod a returning guest and friend of the podcast  for a raw and honest chat about what it takes to be a creative in 2025 ✨

Since we last spoke, Cat’s been selected for the inaugural Sean Connery Talent Lab with NFTS Scotland, where she’s directing a short film (with a real budget this time), and she’s launched _and friends  a brilliant new theatre initiative that champions fresh work and supports artists in meaningful, no-gatekeeper ways. She’s also using her platform to advocate for real change in theatre and the wider creative industry.

We chatted about:

🔥 Burnout and finding the right balance

💼 Balancing paying the bills with creative ambition

🎬 Directing a short film with a budget

🎪 Launching _and friends & running a company

🤖 AI and how her 2023 play Spin predicted the future

🤝 The power of community and collaboration

💬 What she’s learned since our last conversation

🎙️ Our upcoming live event and loads more!

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🎟️ Tickets for our live show on June 22nd:

https://www.skiddle.com/whats-on/Glasgow/_and-Friends/Brave-New-Work-making-indie-film-today/41013840/

🎧 Guardian podcast we mention about AI:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2025/jun/05/is-ai-about-to-steal-your-job-podcast

📸 Follow _and friends on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/andfriends.scot



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EP. 172 - ‘Creating the Community You Wish Existed’ with Cat MacLeod

EP. 172 - ‘Creating the Community You Wish Existed’ with Cat MacLeod

Jamie Mackinlay