Today's guest is Lola Guindal, a multipassionate woman, a so-called "jack of all trades". She is a translator, interpreter and English language trainer, but also a fervent Real Madrid fan, a loving wife and a mom of three.

BTW: she is the first guest on this podcast who is not a runner! She tried to get into running several times in the past but she just could not keep motivated.

So running maybe not her thing, but this doesn't stop her from talking about some fascinating similarities between running and language learning.

What we talk about:

- Messi vs Cristiano Ronaldo (from a language learning perspective)
- Similarities between running and language learning
- Motivation and the benefits of allowing yourself to be a beginner
- Conversation classes: why they don't work and why they are a waste of time
- Some powerful interpreter training techniques that actually do work
- Good Enough vs Perfection
- Lola's number 1 tip to improve your English that is, curiously, also American long-distance runner Des Linden's mantra while running!

The book Lola has on her night stand:
- "Beginners" by Tom Vanderbilt

The other books she recommends:
- "The Motivation Hacker" (Nick Winter)
- "Atomic Habits" (James Clear)

The TEDTalk she talks about:
- Your Body Language May Shape Who You Are (Amy Cuddy) - fake it till you make it

You can find Lola Guindal on
Twitter: @lapiedrarosetta
Web: www.lapiedrarosetta.com

HUGE THANK YOU to Lola Guindal for sharing her knowledge on language learning from an interpreter and lifelong learner's perspective. 😌

If you want to find out how you can improve your English, listening or reading about running stories, visit my web page and hit the subscribe button: https://englishforthelongrun.com

Bye for now, and enjoy English for the long run!

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