PUBLIC VERSION. Filmmaker F. Javier Gutierrez (THE WAIT, BEFORE THE FALL, RINGS) joins Adam and Joe to discuss his career journey. From the De Palma film that set him on his filmmaking path as a child… to attending the Sitges film festival first as a fan and then as a bonafide filmmaker with a short in the festival lineup… to working with Antonio Banderas as a producer on his debut feature BEFORE THE FALL… to dealing with studio pressures making RINGS (his 2017 entry in THE RING franchise)… to working with late producer Ed Pressman on a reboot of THE CROW that never came to fruition and ultimately returning to his home country to make his latest feature THE WAIT which absolutely destroyed at festivals worldwide in 2024… Gutierrez has done it all and lived to tell the tales!