🍒 Talking a mile a minute on too little sleep and a whole lotta NRE, we’re finally ready to share what happened. In this episode of Vanilla Swingers — Apple’s #1 ranked swinger podcast — Kat & Leo finally spill the tea on what happened the night everything changed.

After 2 years of toe-dipping and rule-bending, and soft swap gerrymandering… something shifted. Things escalated. Lines blurred. Emotions ran high. Was it messy? Oh yeah. Was it hot? Also yes. But did it go further than we meant it to? Well… you’ll just have to listen and find out. From the “wait, are we really doing this?” moment to the pillow talk aftermath, we’re not holding anything back.

Whether you're still figuring out your lifestyle boundaries or already deep in the full swap game, this one’s for anyone who’s ever said “never”… and then did it anyway.💦🔥

🍦 Dive in and enjoy every spoonful of our super candid newbie journey as we go from vanilla…to 69 flavors! Always hilarious, unhinged, bite-size and commercial-free!

🏆 ASN Awards Best Podcast Winner 2025

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🔥 *BRAND NEW* blog page ---> fun links & more! Epi 69: From Soft Swap to Full Swap - Our Wildest Episode Yet https://www.vanillaswingers.com/ep-69-from-soft-swap-to-full-swap-our-wildest-episode-yet

🔥 CONFUSED on Swinger Lingo? Check out Kat's new Swinger Dictionary https://www.vanillaswingers.com/swinger-glossary-dictionary-lingo/

🔥 *NEW* Spotify Playlist - Sexy Songs: Vanilla Swingers After Dark - Ready to misbehave? 😉 This is the short version of the playlist we vibe to in the bedroom. Press play and let’s get into some trouble! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4ynpB6sZnhUrLZWWGazLYj

🔥 *NEW* Spotify Epic Playlist - Vanilla Swingers EPIC Playlist - Our go-to rendezvous banger—130+ tracks of pure filthy, flirty, and fire. If this playlist could talk, it would moan. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3CORn07jtuiPS9fcz0Klxv

🔥 *UPDATED* Check out our HOTEL ROOM Makeover – Peek inside our fave hotel setups and steal every sexy, swingy little detail. https://www.vanillaswingers.com/mood-lighting-and-magic-how-to-set-up-a-swinger-hotel-room/

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