As COP 26 draws to a close Lionel speaks to the former Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney. Throughout their conversation they discuss what targets need to be achieved by Governments and big business to tackle climate change, as well as talking about the importance from activists such as Greta Thunberg. Mark Carney also goes on to discuss the economic impact as we come out of the pandemic and look at what challenges lay ahead in the labour market.