In today's soul-stirring episode of The Holistic Counselor Podcast, host Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP, CTP, QS, sits down with her business coach, the dynamic Laura Long, LMFT, MBA. Together, they dive deep into topics that most entrepreneurs quietly wrestle with: the fear of success, financial mindset struggles (especially for faith-filled women), burnout recovery, and what it really takes to sustain a practice without losing your mind—or your mission.

You'll hear raw truths, lots of laughter (and maybe a tear or two), and real-life tools you can start using today. Whether you're a therapist, a coach, a ministry leader, or a creative entrepreneur, this episode is packed with wisdom bombs you won’t want to miss.

Featured Guests:

 Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP, CTP, QS
Founder of Through the Valley Therapy and Transformed Mind Consulting and Coaching

 Laura Long, LMFT, MBA
Therapist, Consultant, Speaker, and Creator of Your Badass Therapy Practice
Learn more about Laura Long here

Key Topics Covered:

 Why fear of success (not failure) is often what keeps us stuck
 Why faith-filled women often struggle with charging what they're worth
 Burnout vs. Compassion Fatigue: Knowing the difference could save your career (and your sanity)
 Practical ways to heal from burnout without adding “one more thing” to your to-do list
 How entrepreneurship and surrender actually go together (hint: hold the reins loosely)
 The unique power of community for counselors, coaches, and creatives

Powerful Quotes from This Episode:

 "Fear of success is what happens when we realize success means more responsibility—and more energy spent." — Diana S. Rice

 "If this thing works, it might change who I am. That’s scarier than failing." — Laura Long

 "Your value was given by God. It’s not tied to your rates, your degrees, or your productivity." — Laura Long

 "Sacrifice? There's only one sacrificial lamb—and it's not you." — Diana S. Rice

 "God often leads in steps, not leaps. Start small. Surrender." — Laura Long

 "Burnout didn’t happen overnight, and healing won’t either." — Laura Long

Resources Mentioned:

•  Wise Practice Podcast Episode 114 with Laura Long: Listen here

•  Journey to the Heart by Melody Beattie – a devotional favorite for seasons of burnout

•  Bible — always the ultimate resource for healing, direction, and truth

•  Wise Practice Summit — Join Diana and Laura this October!

Practical Takeaways:

• If you’re facing burnout, start small: sit outside, listen to a bird, breathe, cry if needed.

• Separate your personal worth from your business pricing. You are priceless.

• Focus on one thing at a time. Spreading yourself too thin doesn’t make you more valuable—it makes you crispy.

• You’re not meant to do life (or business) alone. Find community—even if it's just one safe person right now.

• Remember: rest is productive.

Connect with Us:

Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP, CTP, QS

• Website: Through the Valley Therapy

• Coaching: Transformed Mind Consulting and Coaching

• Instagram: @throughthevalleytherapy | @transformedmindcc

 Laura Long, LMFT, MBA

• Website: Laura Long

• Coaching: Wise Practice Consulting

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