Episode notes:

00:01:48 Introduction

I introduce Nik who has many years of meditation and spiritual exploration. But who also has first hand experience of "Demon Face Syndrome".

00:03:55 Nik Introduces Himself

Married man, father, and works in the science industry. Plays a bit of cricket.

00:05:58 Overview of the Topics of the Day

Topics for today include Demon Face Syndrome, parenting, finding God, these dark times, being too neutral

00:07:10 Discussing Demon Face Syndrome with Nik

I share a clip of a video from 9 months ago on FOX26 TV, in which they explain there's been 75 recorded cases of demon face syndrome (Prosopometamorphopsia). Nik talks about his own experiences of this condition form his own childhood. We then share another video clip of an actual face. I then explain a few different spiritual reasons why people may perceive people's faces in different ways.

00:27:30 Nik Talks about His Spiritual Journey

He wasn't brought up religious and early on he had a book on pyramids which set him off looking into things. One of his teachers did introduce a bit of religion, which coincides with the timing of the demon face experiences. Nik discusses being a critical thinker and not turning his back on the idea of Jesus or God, but rather remaining curious. Then Mark asks him about his first meditation experiences round about 2010. Eventually Nik explored the different stages of Light and Sound meditation. And Mark explains how post his return from Italy, he was able to initiate.

00:39:10 Then Mark brings up God, How did Nik Respond?

Nik had something driving him to stick at it. Mark explains that lots of the journey was "planned" to align things up so Nik and Mark would meet. Nik observes that Mark had to do his journey first. However Nik found it quite a relief to finally have God in his life.
Nik explains what its like being a scientist and yet he believes in Jesus and God and how real it is, and yet he never felt comfortable with church per se. Mark explains how Jesus and God are the goal of spirituality

00:41:26 Mark Shares Freecastle

Freecastle is a religious person who shares the word of God. Mark's approach is different, and Mark reflects on his past teacher John (see ep.003) and how Mark's spiritual journey brought him full circle to discover Jesus and God, not from religion, but from spiritual revelation.

00:45:29 Darkest before the Dawn? True Spiritual Victory?

Millie asks about the current state of the world. Nik reflects on how someone who's become stuck in conspiracy theories can miss the point, which is that focusing on the conspiracy theories do not make people more spiritual. Mark then explains that the media and film industry are there to spread negativity, evil, and darkness, often aimed at children. It is satanic propaganda. Mark explains how the forces of darkness running by multinational organisations are running riot and controlling everything. I then talk about the power of choice. What is true spiritual victory? What is our personal responsibility. Mark talks about Jesus healing people and doing miracles. Nik picks up on the fact that there is more revelation of truth. I then explain how truth, righteousness, and justice are related and how a lack of these allows darkness and deception. So I explain what we can do to make a positive change.

00:54:37 Joy Versus Ego. Is There Danger in being too Neutral?

A question from Toshee & Millie. I explain that being more spiritual and thus neutral does not make us robotic and detached/cold. It really depends on whether your are acting neutral (head) or being neutral (heart). Nik agreed and explained how he experiences Joy from the heart. How it's natural and spontaneous. Mark then addresses how "jumping for joy" is often an intellectual process rather than a love-based thing. Can there be Joy in the presence of ego? I share an insight into the power of words and how saying/thinking positively affects your physical body.

We ran out of time so couldn't answer all the questions.

Links to things mentioned in this episode:

• Watch the full original live show on Rumble: https://rumble.com/v5jyea5-ep.033-demon-face-syndrome-light-v-dark-241024-discussing-spirituality-w-ma.html





• Demon Face on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdQ0k5-qbRE





• Demon Face Syndrome on Clapper: https://clapperapp.com/video/X6YNpednwQxvoRGj





• FreeCastle Rumbler: https://rumble.com/user/freecastle





• Ep.003 Where I talk about my previous experiences in John Y's Light & Sound meditation group: https://thewaybackgroup.org/podcast/ep-003-live-show-discussing-spirituality-with-mark-zaretti-is-meditation-spiritual-lifewave-lightwave-sex-gender-spiritual-growth-spiritually-yin-or-yang-we-are-one/





• Ep.010 Where I talk about the pitfalls of acting intellectually neutral: https://thewaybackgroup.org/podcast/live-show-episode-10-bambi-thug/

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Thank you for listening to this show. If you'd like more spiritual content then check out "The Way Back to Spiritual Awakening" podcast and visit TheWayBackGroup.org where you'll find loads of free resources to help you get the most from your spiritual journey. Check out my books and films. - Mark

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