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Ep.183 I Deciding to Take Initiative: What Happens When Men Step Up with Ryan Michler

Ep.183 I Deciding to Take Initiative: What Happens When Men Step Up with Ryan Michler

Update: 2025-04-02
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Is it possible to become the man you never had as a role model?


Ryan Michler didn’t grow up with a blueprint for manhood—but that didn’t stop him from building one. He and Sanger talk about why so many men feel aimless and how stepping up—not faking it—is the way out. They talk about the appeal of distractions like sports and alcohol, the discomfort of starting from zero, and the kind of fulfillment that comes from actually doing hard things.

 

KEY TOPICS

  • Why men substitute purpose with stats, screens, and manufactured intimacy.
  • What happens when young men admire risk—and older men discourage it.
  • How men get mocked both for not knowing—and for trying to learn.
  • Why it’s better to take a first step than wait for certainty.

 

CHAPTERS

00:00Intro: Defeating Bad Decisions in Life & Business


00:50Learning by Failing on a Ski Trip


03:18Meet Ryan Michler: Founder of Order of Man


04:20Growing Up Without a Present Dad


06:48Can You Still Learn Manhood as an Adult?


08:27Why Men Hide What They Don’t Know


09:14The Catch-22 of Men Asking for Help


10:51Why Not Knowing Feels Like a Threat


11:38How Ego Blocks Growth


13:43Finding Mentors & Letting Go of Pride


16:08Why Ryan Walked Away from His Firm


18:26Taking the Leap Toward Autonomy


20:53Rebuilding on Your Own Terms


23:09Why Advice Often Reflects Regret


25:33Vested Interests & Biased Guidance


27:46Seeking Deeper Purpose in Friendships


29:49Choosing Relationships Intentionally


31:03Escaping Into Sports When Life Lacks Purpose


34:42False Meaning in Porn, Alcohol, & Ego


37:02What Are You Escaping From?


39:22Balance Is a Constant Act


41:45Why Fulfillment Beats Happiness


44:09You Don’t Find Purpose—You Build It


46:25Podcasting & the Birth of Order of Man


48:50Try What Interests You (Without Attachments)


51:11Ryan’s Battle Plan: 4 Areas of Purpose


53:13Decision Tip: Find Someone Who’s Done It


53:21 Where to Connect with Ryan Michler


54:15 Key Takeaways


54:50Message from the Producer


 

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CONNECT WITH RYAN MICHLER

Website: https://orderofman.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanmichler & https://www.instagram.com/orderofman/

Order of Man Podcast: https://orderofman.com/podcast-2/

Sovereignty: The Battle for the Hearts and Minds of Men: https://store.orderofman.com/collections/planners-and-journals/products/sovereignty-signed-copy?_gl=1*of6zq8*_gcl_au*NDMyNjcwMTcuMTc0MjMyNzQ5Ng..*_ga*MTY3ODY4MTk5LjE3Mzg1OTM0NTU.*_ga_MHSG4VQ94E*MTc0MjQxNjk5NC40LjEuMTc0MjQxNzQwMS4wLjAuMA 

 

Ryan Michler unapologetically harnesses the authentic masculinity modern culture has lost. He challenges men to reject complacency, reclaim clarity, and boldly lead at home, in business, and in their communities through Order of Man.

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Ep.183 I Deciding to Take Initiative: What Happens When Men Step Up with Ryan Michler

Ep.183 I Deciding to Take Initiative: What Happens When Men Step Up with Ryan Michler

Sanger Smith and Shawn Smith