In this episode, Kathryn shares a story about one young man's struggle with addiction and how he stayed in conversation with God, which ultimately saved his life. There may be times when we think we can't really talk to God until we overcome our lists of real or imaginary obstacles in our heads, when the truth is God wants to be with us in all of it. 

Kathryn touches upon "in or out" Catholicism and extends to us the concept of Catholic simplicity. She shares how our beautiful teachings are meant to be road signs when we face difficulties in our lives, not rules that we use to judge ourselves or others.

Self-dislike, self-hatred, and self-loathing aren't for us and don't come from God. Kathryn shares that an antidote for self-hatred is service. The only real way to happiness is by helping other people. Additionally, we should strive to be honest not only with others, but with ourselves. God knows everything about us and loves us infinitely, and he's the one we need to be in communication with.