Episode 149: Want to Grow? This is the Way
Update: 2025-06-23
Description
In this episode of The Evernest Property Management Show, Spencer and Matthew sit down with longtime friend and recruiter, Dylan Scroggins — Founder of Kalmar Group and property management’s unofficial headhunter.
They cover:
- Why your “founder story” doesn’t matter to an A-player (and what does)
- The #1 role property managers get wrong when hiring
- When it’s time to stop hiring from your network and start hiring like a pro
- The Grinder: a brutal but brilliant interview technique that exposes true talent
- Why most PMs think they need a “director” before they actually do
- What great storytelling has to do with great recruiting
- How to hire someone that makes you nervous (in the best way possible)
- The mistake of confusing “good at lunch” with “good at the job”
- How Nick Saban built a dynasty using recruiting as his superpower — and how PM owners can do the same
- A step-by-step hiring process for teams under 500 doors (including the exact order of interviews)
Plus:
- A hilarious origin story of the term “The Grinder”
- Spencer and Matthew’s keys to finding, landing, and keeping A-players
- Dylan’s worst reason to hire someone — and it’s one most PMs fall for
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Connect with Matt and Spencer at Evernest: Evernest.co
Guest: Dylan Scroggins, Founder of Kalmar Group | Meet Dylan on LinkedIn
Link: Connect with Evernest
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Visit the Podcast Website: Evernest.co/podcasts
Email the Show: podcast@evernest.co
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Production House: Flint Stone Media
Copyright of Evernest 2025.
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